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  • New Yamaha Black

    Anyone have a source for the powder coat paint?
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
    HERMES
    original owner
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
    SPICA
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

    78 XS 11E
    IOTA
    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



    Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
    Frankford, Ont, Canada
    613-398-6186

  • #2
    Mack, if you're looking for this to refinish your sheetmetal bits, I wouldn't recommend it. Powdercoat, while an excellent finish in the right places, on large-area parts (like fenders and fuel tanks) it will micro-scratch and tend to dull rather quickly. Great for things like frames, engine covers, and brake calipers where durability and chemical resistance is more important than surface finish (it's got to be best thing going for battery trays..).

    As far as color selection, it's limited. Powdercoat can't be 'mixed' like paint, it has to be manufactured in a specific color. Solid colors are the more durable; anything with a metallic content or clears will mar/discolor much easier.
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • #3
      Head

      Thanx Steve, I always pay attention when you chime in. I have to redo my head to match from my jugs down. Long story but excessive head caused the paint to flake off. Looks like sh..t. Going tp bead blast it and want to get a close match.
      mack
      79 XS 1100 SF Special
      HERMES
      original owner
      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

      81 XS 1100 LH MNS
      SPICA
      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

      78 XS 11E
      IOTA
      https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
      https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



      Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
      Frankford, Ont, Canada
      613-398-6186

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      • #4
        Mack, don't scoff, but my black paint of choice for barrels/heads is any quality oil-based paint in a can. Yep, I brush it on. I've never had any luck with spray paint, as no matter how hard you try, you just can't get it into all the nooks/crannies with even coverage. With a brush, you can get a good coating into those places if you work at it, and if cured right, is very durable. And touch-up is a snap... because it's oil-based, any slight grease/grime will get 'brushed' into the paint and won't cause an issue with it lifting.

        I've done this multiple times, and have always been happy with it. I did my XS2 650 this way, and with occasional touch-up, after six years it still looked great when I sold the bike.

        If you go with powdercoat, try to find the exhaust-rated powder, otherwise you may get discoloration.
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          Also, touch ups are impossible for powdercoating. With paint you can always put a dab on a chip, with powdercoating you cannot.
          '79 XS11 F
          Stock except K&N

          '79 XS11 SF
          Stock, no title.

          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
          GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

          "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WMarshy View Post
            Also, touch ups are impossible for powdercoating. With paint you can always put a dab on a chip, with powdercoating you cannot.
            Yep, there's alway that. But properly-applied powder is nearly bulletproof; but if it does get flaws, the only fix is a strip/recoat. And getting it off is a major PITA... BTDT
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • #7
              found one

              Found a close match, it's a powder and the color is called mirror black. I looked at it on a set of aluminum rims and it is very very close. Going to give it a try, if I don't like it, I'll rebead the darn thing again and go with your tip on oil base. Did the exhausts with ceramic and I hate the result, they're black but dull and have a grey hue to them. Going to bead that off as well, and go with expense of black chrome dipping.
              mack
              79 XS 1100 SF Special
              HERMES
              original owner
              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

              81 XS 1100 LH MNS
              SPICA
              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

              78 XS 11E
              IOTA
              https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
              https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



              Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
              Frankford, Ont, Canada
              613-398-6186

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              • #8
                "Excessive head?" I did not think that was possible....

                If you need to remove powdercoat, Aircraft paint stripper takes it right off. I used it many times during my "learning how to powdercoat" period.

                Patrick
                The glorious rays of the rising sun exist only to create shadows in which doom may hide.

                XS11F (Incubus, daily rider)
                1969 Yamaha DT1B
                Five other bikes whose names do not begin with "Y"

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                • #9
                  Nice catch

                  Nice catch Patrick. Your absolutely right. No such thing.
                  mack
                  79 XS 1100 SF Special
                  HERMES
                  original owner
                  http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                  81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                  SPICA
                  http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                  78 XS 11E
                  IOTA
                  https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                  https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                  Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                  Frankford, Ont, Canada
                  613-398-6186

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