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  • #16
    I'm absolutely petrified of messing up the cam chain!

    But at that cost, either we don't do it or we do it ourselves.
    Two weeks vacation does NOT make a life.


    His: 2006 Ninja 650R, salvaged, 10k miles
    Hers: '82 XJ1100 44.4k miles

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    • #17
      Take CaptionZap up on the offer! Wasting time trying to get sync right if valvetrain is off a bit. Carbs is the last thing to mess with untill your sure primary and secondary igition and valve adjustment are all good. In this case, definitely be worth checking those valve clearances.......then tune and sync the the carbs. Would definitely be worth having some assistance and guidance!.......not worth the valve-train damage if your unsure of your capabilities at this point!
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by motoman View Post
        Take CaptionZap up on the offer! Wasting time trying to get sync right if valvetrain is off a bit. Carbs is the last thing to mess with untill your sure primary and secondary igition and valve adjustment are all good. In this case, definitely be worth checking those valve clearances.......then tune and sync the the carbs. Would definitely be worth having some assistance and guidance!.......not worth the valve-train damage if your unsure of your capabilities at this point!
        Yeah I agree. While the sync helped it is clearly not the source of the problem.

        CZ was such a huge help with what proved to be a simple problem of removing that stuck middle drive fill bolt, I'm hesitant to inconvenience the kind man again!
        Two weeks vacation does NOT make a life.


        His: 2006 Ninja 650R, salvaged, 10k miles
        Hers: '82 XJ1100 44.4k miles

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Smash View Post
          While the sync helped it is clearly not the source of the problem.
          Smash, this is a real long shot but check the vacuum advance switch to see if it's 'hunting'. If the carburetor synch is off and the #2 throttle plate is open too far it will start to expose the vacuum advance port to high idle vacuum and that could trigger the advance switch.

          The XJ's vacuum advance switch is on the frame under the gas tank and it's hooked up to the #2 carburetor with a small vacuum line just like the XS11's mechanical vacuum advance.

          To test the switch, pull the vacuum line off the carburetor and cap the nipple.

          Connect a vacuum pump to the vacuum advance line then, while the engine is idling, use the pump to trigger the switch and listen for a change in engine RPM.
          -- Scott
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          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
          1979 XS1100F: parts
          2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Smash View Post
            Yeah you guys are right, I'm just wishing it wasn't so.

            Ugh, called the local shop we use occasionally, and even with a reasonable shop rate ($66/hr) we're still looking at $270 or so for the valve check/adjustment depending on # of shims needed.
            Smash, once more, if you want to check them, give me a call, I will tell you what to do to get ready. If they need adjustment, it will take longer to get the shims than it will to change them. I have the tool. CZ

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Smash View Post
              I'm absolutely petrified of messing up the cam chain!

              But at that cost, either we don't do it or we do it ourselves.
              Here is a thought.
              If you are worried about the chain tension, the best way to do it is to take the
              cover off the left side, set the wheel to "C", take the cam cover off, apply tension to the chain, and remove the tensioner.
              Install the new or fixed tensioner, release the chain. If you want to tap the tensioner for the bolt mod, I have the tap. Release the tension, rotate the engine and check the timing marks.
              Now, since you're in there, check the valve clearance. You wouldn't want to burn a valve or seat. That makes junk out of engines.
              Now, if you are in a rush, and don't want to take the cam cover off, you can do the tensioner without takeing the cover off. Takes 15 min.

              Simple. CZ

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