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  • #1

    Like a bad GF i cant get rid of

    well bike was all fixed up and doing FINE but was out on the highway today when all of a sudden my tach kicked out ...Ok so i assume right away my charging system was acting up ....At this point im about 10miles away from home and its getting dark so eventually bike dies on the side of the road.

    Get it home on the back of the truck and the 3 bolts in my stator cover (that hold my field coil) are loose ...

    Pull everything appart stator seems fine physically but is only testing @ one ohm

    Field coil is all scuffed up and plain f**ked

    and the stator rotor has some scuffing in it.

    Also bike is on charger and i turn on key and NOTHING!! no lights not even a flicker .....is my battery that far gone. or am i lookin @ bigger problems

    Do you think my stator rotor can be used still if i clean it up with emmory cloth or something there is minor scuffung on the inside of it?
    1980 XS standard With Pods and Harley mufflers
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    i'm not a wireing specialist by no means but i would check the regulator. i dont know how at the time but you can find it here on site. it my be fried. the stator is probbally ok if the windin is not broken or melted down any where. check the stator connection be hind the fusebox that has gave problems and has melted before. i think just the screws being loose would not cause any problem unless the stator did alot of moveing around damaged the coilings.
    79 xs 1100 spec & 80 xs 1100 g

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    • #3
      The stator doesnt physically have damage but tests out side the perameters ....book says .4 and im testing 1 ohm.

      field coil and stator rotor are physically damaged ......not getting any reading on field coil and the stator rotor has some minor scuffing .....there wasdeffinatly parts rubbing.
      1980 XS standard With Pods and Harley mufflers

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by dezmitchell View Post
        The stator doesnt physically have damage but tests out side the perameters ....book says .4 and im testing 1 ohm.

        field coil and stator rotor are physically damaged ......not getting any reading on field coil and the stator rotor has some minor scuffing .....there wasdeffinatly parts rubbing.
        some time you can find these parts on ebay very reasonable. sounds as if you going to need them. i you cant find them there i have parts i may consider parting with if needed. good luck
        79 xs 1100 spec & 80 xs 1100 g

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        • #5
          Well i know i have good voltage on the batt i can get 13.28v out of it no problem to every fuse/ground on the bike. so it rules bad batt out .....its almost like i my ignition/key switch isint working.
          1980 XS standard With Pods and Harley mufflers

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          • #6
            Scuffing on the rotor won't be a problem, I'd say. Presumably there scoring isn't like 2mm deep or anything is it? Or heat damaged?

            IMO your stator is probably fine. I know the reading differs from the book but I don't trust the book figures 100%. I had a rectifier which showed up as defective and yet it worked fine. The main thing with the stator is that the coil has continuity. I would be tempted to use it and see.

            I suspect that the rectifier/regulator will be damaged though. The rectifier has several diodes and they all need to work. I'd put a Geezer replacement on if you need a new one. I did so and it's excellent. Worth the money. just for the extra charging, never mind the super-sleek build quality.


            Re the switch thing. You need to use a voltmeter and test the connections on the switch (and anywhere else that's suspect). The block connector on the right, behind the fuse board mount has connections from the alternator. I would look around there and check all the wiring loom for any signs of burning or heating up.
            XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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            • #7
              DEz, have you checked for voltage on each side of the fuses? One could have blown but not look it. Does your starter try to trun if you short across the poles of the solenoid? Do you get an oil light or neutral light on?

              I think I will go out and check those bolts on my bike!!
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                DEz, have you checked for voltage on each side of the fuses? One could have blown but not look it. Does your starter try to trun if you short across the poles of the solenoid? Do you get an oil light or neutral light on?

                I think I will go out and check those bolts on my bike!!
                I did try and see if i had voltage on any of my fuses and nothing ...the key is on and there is NO LIGHTS WHAT SO EVER ....but i have voltage right at my battery where do i start next ??

                so my starter doesnt do anything when i push the button ....Its like the battery isint even in the bike

                You know i was just starting to figure out why so many of you guys on here loved the xs11 FAST POWERFUL LOUD that instant arm strech feature when you drop a gear and hit the throttle to pass ...and she goes ahead and dies on me again lol FAIL!! If i cant get a yamaha to stay reliable how the hell am i ever guna ride a harley
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                • #9
                  Like dgxser said does it do anything at all when you short across the two poles on the starter solenoid? Have you checked all the fuses including the one on the other side (main fuse) as not all the fuses are in that little panel. I would suggest rechecking all grounds as well. I have extra stators and rotors here if you need those, about three of each at last count...lol.
                  2-79 XS1100 SF
                  2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                  80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                  Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rasputin View Post
                    Like dgxser said does it do anything at all when you short across the two poles on the starter solenoid? Have you checked all the fuses including the one on the other side (main fuse) as not all the fuses are in that little panel. I would suggest rechecking all grounds as well. I have extra stators and rotors here if you need those, about three of each at last count...lol.
                    AH you whore !!!!! i just got in from the garage and it was that main fuse ....put everything back together but im not charging ,......tach is on all lights working now so ....im thinking one of 3 things

                    1. Stator and/or field coil is fubar
                    2. I fried my rectifier
                    3. All of the above .....

                    I dont have my manual its in my truck and my truck is currently with my GF somewheres shopping for god knows how long ....so how do i test my rectifier?
                    1980 XS standard With Pods and Harley mufflers

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                    • #11
                      You could try the test on http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67
                      Or you could download a manual from C-bug's page and read it from there. I am not an electrickery expert by any means. The Yamaha manual has a page and a half devoted to a regulator test so is too much typing involved and there is pictures too.
                      2-79 XS1100 SF
                      2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                      80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                      Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                      • #12
                        If your tach us working the the charging system is putting out, because the tach runs off the charging system pulses. Whether the charging is getting to your batter is a different story though. Check the big white plug behind the fuse panel, it is the wires from the charging system before it ties into everything else. That plug often melts.
                        Nathan
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                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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                        • #13
                          Well i put it all back together today just to see and sure as **** the bike runs and im getting charge to the batt.....around 12.48V on idle and 14v when i get around 3grand ......Rode bike around for a few hours and no problems so i pulled her into the garage polished it up and now were both happy
                          1980 XS standard With Pods and Harley mufflers

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                          • #14
                            Glad to hear that!
                            Nathan
                            KD9ARL

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                            1978 XS1100E
                            K&N Filter
                            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                            OEM Exhaust
                            ATK Fork Brace
                            LED Dash lights
                            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                            Green Monster Coils
                            SS Brake Lines
                            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                            Theodore Roosevelt

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                            • #15
                              Excellent!!

                              Glad it worked out!
                              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                              Previously owned
                              93 GSX600F
                              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                              81 XS1100 Special
                              81 CB750 C
                              80 CB750 C
                              78 XS750

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