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    I have new 412 series shocks on my bike. The spring rate is 120/170. With no preload the sag is 50mm. I'm looking for 25- 30 mm. I didn't measure it with the preload cranked up, but I can't ride with a passenger. It's like driving an overloaded pickup truck. Next available rate is 140/200. I'm starting to think maybe progressive spring rates aren't such a good thing.

    Ideas?
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

  • #2
    Put a spacer below the spring for more preload adjustment. You'll need a spring compressor though.
    2H7 (79)
    3H3

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      It might take a short piece of big steel pipe! Where does one acquire a spring compressor for motorcycle shocks?

      I've considered using a floor jack, two hooks, and a length of chain. I'm just a little concerned about it taking my head off!
      Marty (in Mississippi)
      XS1100SG
      XS650SK
      XS650SH
      XS650G
      XS6502F
      XS650E

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      • #4
        I've used a ratchet strap to compress the springs on my shocks a few times.
        Just have to be a little creative on the hook-up so no metal from the ratchet scratches the spring or shock. HTH
        1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
        1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
        1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
        1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
        1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

        Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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        • #5
          I make spacers out of PVC pipe, they hold up just fine.

          Shock with a PVC spacer...


          My home made spring compressor....


          2H7 (79)
          3H3

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • #6
            His centerstand was mm's from the ground when was behind him. The dennis kirk mentioned spacees for the preload. They were 10 or 15 bucks I rhink? I will look wheni get baxk home tonight
            " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

            79 xs11 standard
            xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
            8mm msd wires
            tkat fork brace...
            Fox shocks...
            mikes650 front fender
            led's gallore...
            renthal bars
            gold valve emulators
            vmax tensioner
            Rifle fairing

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            • #7
              Marty in the catalog it has a luttle number two next to the xs11... reading number 2 in the fine print says requires 1/4" travel lumuters part number 58-0860 10.99 a pair ... and thus us for the 412
              " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

              79 xs11 standard
              xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
              8mm msd wires
              tkat fork brace...
              Fox shocks...
              mikes650 front fender
              led's gallore...
              renthal bars
              gold valve emulators
              vmax tensioner
              Rifle fairing

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              • #8
                " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

                79 xs11 standard
                xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
                8mm msd wires
                tkat fork brace...
                Fox shocks...
                mikes650 front fender
                led's gallore...
                renthal bars
                gold valve emulators
                vmax tensioner
                Rifle fairing

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                • #9
                  try yoga...

                  I hear its da bomb for saggy rear ends...




                  Here is the model number of my Heavy Duty shocks... 04-1455B/C

                  John
                  Last edited by jwhughes3; 05-13-2011, 10:53 PM.
                  John is in an anonymous city with an Alamo (N29.519227,W-98.678980)

                  Go ahead, click on the bikes - you know you want to...the electrons are ready.
                  '81 XS1100H - "Enterprise"
                  Bob Jones Custom Navy bike: Tkat brace, EBC floating rotors & SS lines, ROX pivot risers, Geezer rectifier, new 3H3 engine

                  "Not all treasure is silver and gold"

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                  • #10
                    I dont see why you need the spring compresser on these shocks. I do mine by hand.
                    Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.

                    1980 XS1100G 1179 kit, Tkat brace, progressive springs & shocks, jardine spaghetti, Mikes coils, Geezer's rectifier

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                    • #11
                      I don't see why you need the spring compressor on these shocks. I do mine by hand.
                      That's something I'd like to see!
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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