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  • #16
    Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
    There is only one fuel line that enters the carbs on each side, so that is where they get installed. Look for small filters like these. I got them at Cycle Gear (they had to order them for me).

    Is there a filter rate--ie, micron size--that you recommend? The website you list provides three options.
    1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
    1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mendizale View Post
      Is there a filter rate--ie, micron size--that you recommend? The website you list provides three options.
      They only offer one of them. It's part number 707C. They order from Parts Unlimited. Here is the link to the specific part.
      1980 XS850SG - Sold
      1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
      Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
      Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

      Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
      -H. Ford

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      • #18
        Thanks CatatonicBug--very helpful. Based on your counsel, I think I found a local store that sells them.
        1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
        1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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        • #19
          As for fuel filter, HERE is the one I use, I got two at a local ATV off road MC shop for about $5 a piece.

          If you go with the single gage route, I recommend to build the plenum shown in the tech tips out of 2-3" PVC pipe. I use that with ym Mity-vac and go carb to carb. It might not be as accurate or quick as four gages or the carb tune for sure. It does a good job though if your patient and thorough.
          Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

          When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


          Previously owned
          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
          80 CB750 C
          78 XS750

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          • #20
            There is a gauge set you can get for about $50 on ebay that works pretty well. It's the round type, but they get the bike running good and that's what really counts.

            Look for the ones for Goldwings, those are the ones that work with our bikes just fine, and being there are so many of them out there, stuff for them is out there pretty cheap.

            Gotta shop around though, cause the same gauge set can go for as much as $100 (and it's the same gauge set, it just comes with higher quality rubber lines, but for $50 I can replace the lines after I use it once cause they ain't gonna cost me no $50 I can tell you that)
            Cy

            1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
            Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
            Vetter Windjammer IV
            Vetter hard bags & Trunk
            OEM Luggage Rack
            Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
            Spade Fuse Box
            Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
            750 FD Mod
            TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
            XJ1100 Front Footpegs
            XJ1100 Shocks

            I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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            • #21
              Seems like some folks use elbow filters and others use straight ones. Thoughts on what fits better? Also, in general, can these be back-flushed, or should I buy multiple sets if I can get a discount?
              1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
              1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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              • #22
                If they get clogged, throw them away and replace them. If they get clogged often, figure out where the crap is coming from and fix the problem (clean the rust out of the tank etc). You should be able to run the same filter for a couple years at least, although you might want to replace it either yearly or every couple of years, depending on how much stuff you see it collecting (good reason to use one with a clear body).
                Cy

                1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                Vetter Windjammer IV
                Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                OEM Luggage Rack
                Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                Spade Fuse Box
                Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                750 FD Mod
                TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                XJ1100 Shocks

                I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                • #23
                  Welcome!

                  Just remember, when you put the filters on your lines, try to get the air out of them the best you can. They can complicate things, they kind of get "air locked"... Once you put them on just tap them and try to work the air out, as mentioned before, the clear ones are the best IMO.
                  '79 XS11 F
                  Stock except K&N

                  '79 XS11 SF
                  Stock, no title.

                  '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                  GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                  "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                  • #24
                    Thanks Cy and WMarshy.

                    In response to earlier comments about getting a carb tuner and colortune, I'm wondering what size spark plug these bikes have (in case I have to replace them, and to know what size colortune to get: C 10mm D 12mm B 14mm.) And any thoughts on elbow versus straight filters would be good.
                    1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
                    1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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                    • #25
                      14MM spark plugs. BP6ES NGK brand.
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                      ☮

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                      • #26
                        Here is a picture of my single gage setup. Mity vac situated in view by the rear wheel, plenum to absorb the fluctuations, front end connected to number four synch port.



                        Take a reading off number four, move it to number three. If four is say 10" and three reads 7.5" I adjust while on three to 8.75". Then check them again. Same process for one and two. And again to bring the pairs together. Then take a reading on each.
                        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                        Previously owned
                        93 GSX600F
                        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                        81 XS1100 Special
                        81 CB750 C
                        80 CB750 C
                        78 XS750

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                        • #27
                          Hi Folks,

                          So, I ponied up the money and ordered the Morgan Carbtune and the Colortune. From what I hear, they should arrive sometime between two weeks from now and the end of the world (December 2012, if you're counting).

                          To help justify this whopping expenditure, I wonder if there's a forum for borrowing expensive or hard-to-find tools, maybe by region? I've looked to no avail. Would it be worth setting something up, or just play it by ear and have people ask when they need something. I simply don't know how common tool lending is in this community.

                          Either way, current and future readers should feel free to PM me if they'd like to borrow these tools, and we might be able to work something out.
                          1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
                          1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mendizale View Post
                            To help justify this whopping expenditure, I wonder if there's a forum for borrowing expensive or hard-to-find tools, maybe by region? I've looked to no avail.
                            Interesting concept there. Another way to look at it is how much money you save by doing the work yourself rather than at a shop at $XX per hour, and usually with a minimum one hour or so. I think my local shop is somewhere in the range of 80 or 90 bucks an hour! An hour here, an hour there, and it doesn't take long to have a 300 dollar bill, and often still not have the job done right.

                            YMMV...
                            Ken Talbot

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ken Talbot View Post
                              Interesting concept there. Another way to look at it is how much money you save by doing the work yourself rather than at a shop at $XX per hour, and usually with a minimum one hour or so. I think my local shop is somewhere in the range of 80 or 90 bucks an hour! An hour here, an hour there, and it doesn't take long to have a 300 dollar bill, and often still not have the job done right.

                              YMMV...
                              That's definitely true--I don't suspect it will take long to "pay for itself". But I'm hoping to use the carbtune at most a couple of times a year--the rest of the time, an apparently awesome piece of equipment will sit idle in my garage. If there are people who can use it (and whom I can trust to take care of it), it would be worth it to pass the value around.

                              I come from a place where people don't always feel they need every tool in the world, but they act neighborly with what they have and things work out. This might not be realistic across the distances that separate the people on XS.com, even if the feeling is there. But shipping isn't crazy expensive, either...

                              The sharing forum seemed to interest you, Ken. Do you think it's worth setting up a poll to gauge interest in it, or would the moderators already have done it if it were worthwhile?
                              1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
                              1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                                Here is a picture of my single gage setup. Mity vac situated in view by the rear wheel, plenum to absorb the fluctuations, front end connected to number four synch port.
                                Great picture and idea. Tell me, did the 81 not have the protruding kickstart nub? How do you turn the engine over manually?

                                David
                                Last edited by Mendizale; 05-13-2011, 11:36 PM. Reason: Poor wording
                                1979 Yamaha XS1100 Special
                                1969 (or '70 or '71) Triumph (Trophy or BSA) 250

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