Wondering what people are running for replacement clutchs and clutch springs. Also where they got them from. mines just starting to slip under WOT so starting the search now
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Originally posted by my79is2bad View PostWondering what people are running for replacement clutchs and clutch springs. Also where they got them from. mines just starting to slip under WOT so starting the search nowXS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.
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I believe the plates are the same as the XS650, but more of them. Mike's XS has them. Parts-N-More has them as well as the dealer and I'm sure, a few others.Marty (in Mississippi)
XS1100SG
XS650SK
XS650SH
XS650G
XS6502F
XS650E
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If your interested in just replacing it all anyway, go ahead. Many folks, myself included, that have had slipping at heavy accelleration only find that simply replacing the springs will resolve it. If you have a micrometer, measure the length of the springs, and the thickness of your friction disc. I have yet to find a friction disc under spec in these, but always seems the springs are our of spec. Also check your metal plates for warpage, but again I have yet to find any that were out of spec.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750
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Lots of discussion on clutch problems in the forum. I tried to make a pole to see what the majority of people are doing to fix it...
http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ghlight=clutch'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~
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Its going to be your springs as they are over 30 years old. This is usually a very simple fix and not very expensive. Can even be done with the bike on the side stand without draining the oil (more on that later).
You will need a large socket and an impact to remove the clutch nut that holds it all in. Take the pack apart and then clean and lightly sand the floaters with 400 grit. As long as the frictions are not visibly deteriorated, re-use the frictions. Mic them if you can (if less than .11" change them). Check the steel floaters for warpage by placing them on a piece of glass and try to slide a .004" feeler gauge between the floater and the glass. If it does then change the floater. Some guys install an extra floater in the middle of the pack but I have never done this. Change the springs for new ones. Usually a set of heavy duty EBC springs can be had for around $20.00-$30.00. Put it back together. Torque the clutch nut to 50-55 pound feet and the star plate nuts to only 7-8 pound feet and watch out for the star plate when you tighten up the pack. They are easy to break if everything is not lined up well. That should solve your problem.
As for the 'not draining the oil part', if you have synthetic oil now might be a good time to change back to dino oil. Some say the type of oil affects clutch grip and all I know is these wet clutch packs are not designed to swim in synthetics.
A few hours and a couple of beers.Mike Giroir
79 XS-1100 Special
Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.
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Change the springs. Use these springs, ebc springs come new just barely above the spec number. These are barnett spring, last way longer than ebc.
http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/...14&Search.y=10Nathan
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
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Last set of springs I ordered from my local shop. Paid about $16 for them. They were heavy duty springs.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750
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Originally posted by DGXSER View PostIf your interested in just replacing it all anyway, go ahead. Many folks, myself included, that have had slipping at heavy accelleration only find that simply replacing the springs will resolve it. If you have a micrometer, measure the length of the springs, and the thickness of your friction disc. I have yet to find a friction disc under spec in these, but always seems the springs are our of spec. Also check your metal plates for warpage, but again I have yet to find any that were out of spec.
--Nick
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Originally posted by somesuch View PostI tried replacing just the springs, and it worked, so I never put the plates in...one of these days I'll throw them on Ebay.
--Nick
Thanks
LarryInventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399
If you're not riding, you're not living!
82 XJ1100
80 XS1100G (Project bike)
64 Yamaha YA-6
77 Suzuki TS-185
79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac
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Thanks to somesuch, I'll be installing Barnett clutch plates and springs along with the hydraulic clutch mod.
LarryInventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399
If you're not riding, you're not living!
82 XJ1100
80 XS1100G (Project bike)
64 Yamaha YA-6
77 Suzuki TS-185
79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac
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before you install those barnetts check them on a known flat surface for warpage. I know my barnetts had a tiny bit and made the clutch stutter. Others have had similar issues, maybe its a shipping thing I don't know.1979 xs1100 Special -
Stock air box/K&N Filter, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Bad-Boy Air horn, TC fuse box, Windshield, Soft bags, Vetter Fairing, Blinkers->Run/Turn/Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator, hard wire GPS power
Short Stack - 1981 xs1100 Standard - lowered for SWMBO.
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