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  • Caliper/Brake assembly lube???

    Does anybody know where you get the grease that's used for assembling pistons into calipers and master cylinders? The stuff I'm thinking of is red and I've gotten little 'tubes' of it with rebuild kits and found it inside of some newer calipers I've disassembled, but I haven't been able to find a local source.

    I'm thinking this would be good to 'pack' into the o-ring grooves of the caliper bodies to prevent corrosion from coming back. It apparently doesn't dissolve in brake fluid, but is non-harmful to the brake system.

    Anybody?
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

  • #2
    I was of the understanding that you should never use ANYTHING except clean brake fluid anywhere in the brake system. I've never had to "lube" it with anything else, and the calipers and pistons always just press in by hand.
    1980 XS850SG - Sold
    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
    -H. Ford

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    • #3
      'Bug, this 'grease' is specifically for brake systems. I first ran into it about 7-8 years ago when I got little tubes of it in some automotive caliper kits. I've since seen it inside of other calipers I've disassembled, so I'm figuring it was used at the factory. Harley furnishes it in their caliper rebuild kits, and I was told it's main use was to prevent corrosion behind the piston o-rings; it's use as a 'lube' is secondary.

      Somebody makes this stuff, it's just figuring out who...
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • #4
        Call a dealer and ask. They may know.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #5
          Maybe this is what you're looking for? I just did an ebay search for "Castrol red rubber grease".

          I had never heard of it, but a search here led me to that link.

          I assume it's different from the stuff they sell for the external moving brake parts here?
          1980 XS850SG - Sold
          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
          Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

          Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
          -H. Ford

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          • #6
            Originally posted by natemoen View Post
            Call a dealer and ask. They may know.
            Trust me, the morons you usually find at the Harley dealer don't know; I won't let those guys anywhere near my Sportsters...

            And before everybody piles on Harley, I'll point out that when my '78 was new the dealer had absolutely zero clue as how to wire up my trailer wiring, and failed (in two attempts) to diagnose a broken pick-up wire.

            Dealers of any stripe are a last resort for me....
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • #7
              http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-290-11087

              I don't mean talk to a tech, a parts manager should know, and not just Harley even a car dealer parts manager.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

              μολὼν λαβέ

              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
                Maybe this is what you're looking for? I just did an ebay search for "Castrol red rubber grease".
                Yep, that sure looks like it; right color and consistancy. I wonder why it's 'Not Available to United States'? Now that I have a maker, I'll see if I can find a supplier...

                Thanks!
                Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                '78E original owner - resto project
                '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                '82 XJ rebuild project
                '80SG restified, red SOLD
                '79F parts...
                '81H more parts...

                Other current bikes:
                '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                • #9
                  Well, there is this one.

                  Or this one.

                  Those are the two I could find that I am almost sure are the same stuff.
                  Cy

                  1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                  Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                  Vetter Windjammer IV
                  Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                  OEM Luggage Rack
                  Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                  Spade Fuse Box
                  Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                  750 FD Mod
                  TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                  XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                  XJ1100 Shocks

                  I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Cy! I sent a question to the 'Penrose' seller to see if that's the same stuff, we'll see what comes back...
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                      Does anybody know where you get the grease that's used for assembling pistons into calipers and master cylinders? - - -
                      Hi Steve,
                      the purplish-red stuff? When I worked in a hydraulics shop we used that stuff to lubricate o-rings and seals on assembly.
                      Try your local hydraulic equipment repair shop.
                      They'll either sell you a tube of it or give you a part-used one if you ask nicely.
                      Fred Hill, S'toon
                      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                      • #12
                        I know exactly the stuff you're talking about. It comes in small, horse-pill size packets which are cut open with a knife or side cutters and are packaged with automotive wheel cylinder or master cylinder rebuild kits.

                        Last I saw these things available separately was in a wheel cylinder cup selector assortment box behind the counter of a napa store. The packets were in one of the compartments in the tray.

                        I'll try to remember to make a phone call tomorrow and se if they are still available and maybe get a part number.
                        '78 E "Stormbringer"

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                        • #13
                          Castrol red rubber grease

                          I have a small screw top tub of the Castrol red rubber grease that has been banging around in my toolbox for years, this has lasted me for at least a dozen rebuilds and enough left over for plenty more.
                          I had an experance with a friend of a friend years ago concerning a Harley dealer, was '75 I think when a riding duddy told me a story about a '71 Harley 350 Sprint that the local Harley dealer had for 6 months tring to resolve a no 3rd gear issue. The dealer went belley up and told his friend to pick up his 350. He got it in several boxes with the rolling frame. I took a look at it and found a sheared woodruff key on a trans shaft. Replaced the key and we pieced it togather in one afternoon. Ran and shifted fine. One happy camper. Can't remember if it was just a dealership that Harley pulled the plug on or if sales were off due to the AMF boondoggle. Do remember they copped an attitude if you rode up on anything other than a Harley.
                          1979 XS 1100 Special - Nicknamed "MONSTER"

                          ATC fuse box
                          Braded stainless brake lines
                          4/2 aftermarket exhaust(temp until stock is re-chromed )
                          V-Max auto cam chain adjuster
                          Brake light modulator with reserve brake light bypass
                          Vetter Windjammer III faring
                          Tkat Fork Brace

                          "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed; unlike the citizens of the countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms”
                          James Madison, The Federalists Papers

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                          • #14
                            I have used sil-glyde availiable at napa with no problem, but for others opinion read here http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=52957.0
                            Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.

                            1980 XS1100G 1179 kit, Tkat brace, progressive springs & shocks, jardine spaghetti, Mikes coils, Geezer's rectifier

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                            • #15
                              Sil-glyde is for use at various moving points (brake shoes to backing plates, caliper pins, etc) and isn't the same stuff. The guy selling the Penrite is sending me a sample, and I'm pretty sure that's what I'm looking for.
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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