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    The oil galley plug at the bottom of the alternator is usually held in by the alternator cover. I know I have heard of at leas one other member removing that plug and threading the hole, replacing it with a threaded plug. Anyone done this, and can tell me what size tap/plug I should use? The o-ring has failed on mine again, and I'm tired of messing with it.

    I read trbig's description of how he did it, but he just used 2 threaded plugs, and used the first one to tap the hole. I'd rather not go that route if I don't have to. He also didn't state what size plug he used.
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  • #2
    Ask him....
    Nathan
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    • #3
      I've done that, but it was long ago and I don't remember what size I used. If you're not in a hurry I'll have my motor apart in a few weeks and I can measure it. I did use a tap to cut the threads, though. BTW, be real careful doing this, right next to that plug is the feeder for the #5 main bearing. If you leave ANY chips in there, that bearing will be toast.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by natemoen View Post
        Ask him....
        He didn't remember - besides, he's not on here much anymore...

        Originally posted by DAVINCI View Post
        I've done that, but it was long ago and I don't remember what size I used. If you're not in a hurry I'll have my motor apart in a few weeks and I can measure it. I did use a tap to cut the threads, though. BTW, be real careful doing this, right next to that plug is the feeder for the #5 main bearing. If you leave ANY chips in there, that bearing will be toast.
        Thanks. Not a major rush, but something I want to do before the winter's over.
        1980 XS850SG - Sold
        1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
        Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
        Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

        Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
        -H. Ford

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        • #5
          OK, I'll let you know.
          Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
            He didn't remember - besides, he's not on here much anymore...
            Yeah, but you know where to find him right? I recall that Randy did it too, and does remember, something about 1/2 inch size, non pipe thread and thread sealer. He also said he was not comfortable with doing it without the cases split because of possibly blocking oil to the crank. I would be really worried about that as well.
            Cy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
              Yeah, but you know where to find him right?
              Well, if he's not here, I can't find him. I have no desire to look elsewhere...
              1980 XS850SG - Sold
              1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
              Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
              Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

              Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
              -H. Ford

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              • #8
                Dang it Cy!
                Nathan
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                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  Here ya go CBug

                  From Tod
                  Though I don't see any problem doing it with the motor in the bike, (You aren't going to get any better access to it with the cases split) Randy is right that you have to be careful. If you pull out that galley plug and shine a flashlight in from the bottom up, you will see the hole that leades up to your crank bearings. It's in that narrower section next to where your galley plug sits against. (*Edit... Randy saw Randy just posted that pic)

                  Before going this route, I would try a couple different, less permanent options though. If a new O-ring won't seal it, try soaking the plug and O-ring in brake fluid overnight to swell the O-ring.

                  Or, get some Yamalube/Tribond and clean everything extremely well with some brake or carb cleaner. Remove the O-ring and clean down in the grooves really well. Put some Yamabond/Tribond down into the groove, then install the O-ring, then put some more of the gunk all around the plug and then around the hole in the motor where that plug sits. Spin it in your fingers for a minute or two so it doesn't drip off and skins over, then install it and let it sit there overnight. I'd then cut a small thin piece of rubber and glue it to the inside of the cover in the spot that pushes on that plug just to help push against it and hold pressure on it.
                  From Randy
                  Dug through my toolbox and the tap I bought to do the plug is a 3/4"-10. So the plug is 3/4-10. i suppose you could use any thread pitch 3/4 plug and tap combo.

                  Here's a shot before I tapped the motor...notice the #5 main bearing oilway...only 3/4 inch in! Go REAL slow with the tap, there's not much meat on the case there and you will crack it if you try to tap too quickly.

                  Nathan
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                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                  In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                  Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • #10
                    Thanks!!
                    1980 XS850SG - Sold
                    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                    -H. Ford

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