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  • Update, Reviving 1979 XS1100 Standard

    Hello all,

    I posted here awhile ago about reviving a 1979 XS1100 Standard. I had just purchased the bike and was new the XS1100.

    There were several things preventing me from starting up the bike. I wanted to post an update of my progress to those interested.

    Here is the link to the old post btw:
    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ght=rusty+tank

    Anyways, I have finally finished cleaning those carburetors. Below is an imgur link to a picture of the final result on the carburetors.

    http://imgur.com/BotVb.jpg

    I only have a picture of the outside of the carburetors, but I promise the inside looks just as pretty. I have decided on pod filters, and since I have an extra set of jets I am going to attempt to drill them larger myself, well see how that goes.


    Anyways, on to the second obstacle, which is the gask tank. Below are two images, one showing the outside of the tank, the other showing the inside.

    http://imgur.com/jOANJ.jpg
    http://imgur.com/QCDzL.jpg

    The outside of the tank is in near perfect condition. In the picture, I had not yet wiped it down, but the paint job is still in incredible shape.
    The inside of the carburetor of course is a different story. There is a lot of rust, and I am unsure of how to proceed. Here is my plan:

    1) Electrolysis
    2) ??????

    I have heard and seen that electrolysis does a great job at removing the rust. I plan on keeping the petcocks and fuel sender unit on the tank as I proceed with the electrolysis. I do not think that will be a problem and I am too lazy to make temporary gaskets to prevent leaks.

    After the electrolysis is complete I want to prevent flash rusting. What chemical do I use to prevent flash rusting. I want to avoid using gas tank liners because they can cause trouble down the road.

    Any suggestions or thoughts on my game plan?

  • #2
    Electrolysis works. If you ate not planning on keeping the paint job you could bring it to a tadiator shop or a machine shop and have them hot tank/boil the tank. It will get rid of the rust and the pain, the radiator shop could also do a little zinc coating to prevent the flash rust as well.

    If you do the electolysis, a wash after the elctolysis of phosphorus acid will do the trick.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #3
      I definitely want to keep the original paint job. It is hard to tell from the photo, since the tank is dirty, but the paint is in awesome condition.

      Where does one find phosphoric acid?


      Thanks,
      Adam

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      • #4
        You might want to look at this stuff; supposedly non-harmful to paint...

        Post number 58 http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22621&page=4
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        • #5
          The 4th post down in that link posted answers the phosphorus acid question.
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

          μολὼν λαβέ

          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            I saw on another forum that white vinegar from the dollar store supposedly works. Fill it up and let it soak. Also, soaking your carbs in Pine-Sol is supposed to be environmentally friendly and work well.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by xs1100newb View Post
              - - - I plan on keeping the petcocks and fuel sender unit on the tank as I proceed with the electrolysis. I do not think that will be a problem and I am too lazy to make temporary gaskets to prevent leaks. - - -
              Hi Newb,
              that's not the smartest of ideas. The effort to make temporary seals is less than the effort of finding replacement petcocks and fuel sender after the electrolysis wrecks the units you left in there.
              Fred Hill, S'toon
              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
                Hi Newb,
                that's not the smartest of ideas. The effort to make temporary seals is less than the effort of finding replacement petcocks and fuel sender after the electrolysis wrecks the units you left in there.
                Definitely agree with that. At the least you will have to pull Ahhhh clean the petcocks after the fact, then you might find you broke a filter tower (and those are probably harder to find than whole petcocks. Just do it right the first time and don't try to take a bunch of shortcuts.
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

                μολὼν λαβέ

                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  You can turn the sending unit around, make a gasket, and bolt it back on. That will block that hole. Making petcock hole covers is also easy using flat stock.
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                  • #10
                    When I washed and electrolysis cleaned my tank, I took a section of an old metal stud left over from when I finished my basement and cut that into the pieces to cover the sending unit and petcock openings. I backed it with rubber from an old inner tube. I did bend the sides up on 90 degrees to stiffen it up a little.
                    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                    Previously owned
                    93 GSX600F
                    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                    81 XS1100 Special
                    81 CB750 C
                    80 CB750 C
                    78 XS750

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