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  • Rear Brake Master Cylinder Kit

    Okay guys...I bought an XS1100 rear brake master cylinder off of ebay and the piston is 14 mm. I also have an '80 XS1100 Midnight Special and it's pistion is 1/2". What's the deal. Where can I find a kit for the 14 mm bore? Why all the different sizes for one bike? I look forward to a lively discussion. Stan H.
    '80 XS1100LG Midnight Special
    Looks like an '82 Maxim, Fuel Injected
    '82 XJ1100J, Fuel Injected
    Stan Hutchison

  • #2
    Depends, one, they may not be stock. Two, if someone swapped out the 81 MNS brake system, the rear was a linked brake with one of the front calipers like on the XJs. So hard to sya for sure.
    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


    Previously owned
    93 GSX600F
    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
    81 XS1100 Special
    81 CB750 C
    80 CB750 C
    78 XS750

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    • #3
      Some of the specials I think had linked systems with the left front caliper and the rear caliper. So you may have got one of those master cylinders.
      Nathan
      KD9ARL

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      1978 XS1100E
      K&N Filter
      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

      Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        You beat me to it.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #5
          Thanks guys. I've searched the web for 2 hours and I've found two different XS1100 rear brake master cylinder (MC) kits. I just ordered a kit from DarkHorseMotorcycleParts.com that looks like my 14mm piston. I was very surprised to find such a difference in the master cylinders. The '79 XS1100 MC purchased from Ebay was 14mm and the '80 XS1100LG was a 1/2" bore. Both master cylinders were designed for rear braking only; and were not built to support integral front and rear braking as you would find on the '82 XJ1100. I sure hope the kit I ordered was the right part. I'll post my findings as soon as the package arrives.
          '80 XS1100LG Midnight Special
          Looks like an '82 Maxim, Fuel Injected
          '82 XJ1100J, Fuel Injected
          Stan Hutchison

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          • #6
            As far as I know, Never owned one, bu tthe LG or 80 MNS should have the exact same rear MC as every other XS ever made. The only one that had anythign different from the factory was the LH or 81 MNS. Now, as most of us have seen, alot of parts get swapped out form one bike to another regardless of what it was on before. Banshee was probably 1/3 Suzuki fit and finish stuff like turn signals and front cover and ovther stuff when I got it.
            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


            Previously owned
            93 GSX600F
            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
            81 XS1100 Special
            81 CB750 C
            80 CB750 C
            78 XS750

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            • #7
              You should get the right kit for the Ebay m/c. All of my research suggest you somehow had a similar but not correct m/c on that LG.
              79SF
              XJ11
              78E

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              • #8
                I noticed in your signature you say
                '80 XS1100 Midnight Special
                Looks like an '82 Maxim, fuel injected
                Does it have the straight spokes or curved like the maxim? The lg were straight, the lh are like the maxim. Not that it explains the confusion, just clears it up some.VIN check, motor, frame?
                79SF
                XJ11
                78E

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                • #9
                  '80 XS1100LG Midnight Special
                  Looks like an '82 Maxim, Fuel Injected
                  '82 XJ1100J, Fuel Injected
                  Stan Hutchison

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                  • #10
                    Sorry, I posted with no content, my bad. My '80 XS11 VIN is 4H3001626. Straight spokes. I'm pretty sure it's an XS1100 LG Midnight Special, but I'll let someone else verify. Ebay has several MC's listed; one claims the MC came off a '78 Yamaha XS1100 14mm, and I found a '80 XS1100 with a 1/2" cylinder. Hmm, there's a mystery a foot Watson, Sherlock Holmes; Stan H.
                    '80 XS1100LG Midnight Special
                    Looks like an '82 Maxim, Fuel Injected
                    '82 XJ1100J, Fuel Injected
                    Stan Hutchison

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                    • #11
                      Well by the 4h3 it does say its a LG. Here is the page that has the vin list.

                      http://www.xs11.com/faqs/153-serial-...ry-colors.html
                      Nathan
                      KD9ARL

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                      1978 XS1100E
                      K&N Filter
                      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                      OEM Exhaust
                      ATK Fork Brace
                      LED Dash lights
                      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                      Green Monster Coils
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                      Theodore Roosevelt

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                      • #12
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                        80 XS1100 Midnight Special
                        Looks like an '82 Maxim
                        Just a matter of opinion I guess, my bad. I think an 80MNS looks like a black and gold SG or SH. But the swirl spokes on the LH kinda tends toward the maxim.
                        79SF
                        XJ11
                        78E

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                        • #13
                          You're probably asking...Why does his '80 XS1100LG look like an '82 XJ1100J? Answer, I swapped out the XS11's gas tank, seat, and side rails with an XJ11; giving the Midnight Special a 5 gallon fuel tank and a step seat. I'm in the process of making new side covers for the right side fuse panel and the left side battery case.

                          I just got the XS11 running. I'm monitoring the charging system; the battery voltage with a Fluke DVM is reading about 13.2V at 4k RPMs. Most of the time it's in the high 12V range. I've never seen a high 13+volts. I also need to finish tuning the electronic fuel injection system (EFI) and set the ignition timing curve. The XS is running with my XJ11's EFI tables, which are probably close. I have approx. 100 miles on her, and I've only broke down twice needing assistance.

                          I discovered the brakes were not working well, and the sight glass in the front master cylinder was bad. I got all this fix last week, which is why I posted. The eBay master cylinder I bought was 14mm and my XS11 is 1/2". The new braided stainless steel brake lines I installed really improved the feel.

                          Have a nice day guys, I've just got time to make the coffee, vote, and ride to work. Stan H.
                          '80 XS1100LG Midnight Special
                          Looks like an '82 Maxim, Fuel Injected
                          '82 XJ1100J, Fuel Injected
                          Stan Hutchison

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                          • #14
                            AHA that clears that up. Just curious, how did or did you address the rear tank mounting? Did you grind off the original screw post and add anything? And how well do the bars clear that bigger tank? Change bars? Surely I'm not the only one wondering. How about some photos ?
                            79SF
                            XJ11
                            78E

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                            • #15
                              Good morning, the XS11 to XJ1100 transition was fairly easy and the results look pretty nice. I'll paste some pictures soon,this site wants a link.

                              Here was my transition process...I removed the XS fuel tank bracket and welded in the XJ bracket. I also removed the hold down bolts for the XS seat and welded in XJ latches. This was a very nice modification because removing the XS seat requires tools. I can just pop my conversion right off.

                              Yes, pictures would be nice. I'll get them posted soon so you guys can see different approach to a custom mc. slh
                              '80 XS1100LG Midnight Special
                              Looks like an '82 Maxim, Fuel Injected
                              '82 XJ1100J, Fuel Injected
                              Stan Hutchison

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