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    My XS has not had any gauges since I have owned it so I purchased an Acewell 2853 to install. I do have a few questions because I have never wired one up before.

    1) What should I hook up the gauge to get the proper fuel reading?
    2) What should I hook the blinkers to?
    3) What should I hook the high beam indicator to?
    4) What should I hook the neutral light to?
    5) Any idea what I should hook up the warning/hazard light to?

    Also if anyone has the sensor that connects to the oil pressure sender for sale please let me know!

    Thank you much.
    Mark - 1979 XS11 Standard (Pic 1, Pic 2) (Pic 3) (Pic 4)

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    If your looking for the oil pressure switch that sits in the top of the crankcase behind the cylinders, I have that.
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    • #3
      It sounds like you need to get familiar with the wrong diagram in the back of the clymer manual.
      Nathan
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      • #4
        Originally posted by natemoen View Post
        It sounds like you need to get familiar with the wrong diagram in the back of the clymer manual.
        Or the correct one...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
          Or the correct one...
          It seems that you are always the one to find my spelling/auto correct errors
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

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          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            Originally posted by natemoen View Post
            It seems that you are always the one to find my spelling/auto correct errors
            Well, the fact that the auto-correct inserts words that "technically" make sense tends to grab my attention.
            1980 XS850SG - Sold
            1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
            Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
            Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

            Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by mds2004 View Post
              My XS has not had any gauges since I have owned it so I purchased an Acewell 2853 to install. I do have a few questions because I have never wired one up before.

              1) What should I hook up the gauge to get the proper fuel reading?
              2) What should I hook the blinkers to?
              3) What should I hook the high beam indicator to?
              4) What should I hook the neutral light to?
              5) Any idea what I should hook up the warning/hazard light to?
              Well, a few general thoughts to start...

              The wiring harnesses were pretty much all the same for all XSs, with variations between the standard and special. Some wires used on the standards are present on the specials, just connected not quite the same. There does appear to be some weirdness in the wiring diagrams depending on the year (particularly on the neutral switch, which seems to be tied to both the oil light and the ignition system on the early models?) so some careful checking would seem to be in order. Remember that LEDs are polarity sensitive.

              The blinkers and high beam indicator should get a 12v+ signal from their respective circuits, as should the hazard warning light, with the other 'side' going to ground. Look in the headlight bucket for a yellow wire (high beam), chocolate (left turn) and light green (right turn). But the hazard wasn't installed on all XS models, so you may not have any place to hook that. It helps to post what year/model you have...

              The neutral light should have 12v+ connected to it, with the ground side going to the switch. You should make the same sort of connection for the fuel light, but whether or not the sending unit will give you the correct value to allow the light to come on you'll have to check.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                It sounds like you need to get familiar with the wrong diagram in the back of the clymer manual.
                I just picked up a Clymer's manual and looked over the diagrams, but I was not sure where I hook up the wires to.

                Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                Well, a few general thoughts to start...

                The wiring harnesses were pretty much all the same for all XSs, with variations between the standard and special. Some wires used on the standards are present on the specials, just connected not quite the same. There does appear to be some weirdness in the wiring diagrams depending on the year (particularly on the neutral switch, which seems to be tied to both the oil light and the ignition system on the early models?) so some careful checking would seem to be in order. Remember that LEDs are polarity sensitive.

                The blinkers and high beam indicator should get a 12v+ signal from their respective circuits, as should the hazard warning light, with the other 'side' going to ground. Look in the headlight bucket for a yellow wire (high beam), chocolate (left turn) and light green (right turn). But the hazard wasn't installed on all XS models, so you may not have any place to hook that. It helps to post what year/model you have...

                The neutral light should have 12v+ connected to it, with the ground side going to the switch. You should make the same sort of connection for the fuel light, but whether or not the sending unit will give you the correct value to allow the light to come on you'll have to check.
                Thank you much. And my apologies for not listing what I have. It is a 1979 XS1100 Standard.
                Mark - 1979 XS11 Standard (Pic 1, Pic 2) (Pic 3) (Pic 4)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mds2004 View Post
                  ....what I have. It is a 1979 XS1100 Standard.
                  If that's the case, you won't be able to hook the hazard light to anything as this year has no hazards. You'll probably be out of luck on the fuel light too, as the sender ohms get bigger as the fuel level drops; the light will probably come on when full, then go off as the level drops.

                  As to the neutral and oil lights, I'd personally trace those circuits to see just how the wiring is connected. You may want to run new wires to these. The diagram doesn't look right...
                  Last edited by crazy steve; 10-21-2010, 10:33 AM.
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • #10
                    Acewell 2853= nice multi gauges looks cool! take pics after install
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                    • #11
                      Steve,

                      Most Acewell gauges have a variable resistance setup for the fuel gauge sensor input. The display is a variable bar graph type. You should be able to match it up pretty well to the resistance of the sender. If the sender resistance is going backwards compared to the gauge then you will start with a bar graph showing an empty tank, and getting fuller as it empties...easy enough to get used to.
                      Last edited by Guy_b_g; 10-22-2010, 09:35 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Yeah, I tried to look at the gauge manual to see just what could be done, but it wouldn't download... it seems Windows7 and Adobe7 don't like each other and it's been hit-and-miss for opening stuff...
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • #13
                          I received the gauge in the mail last night and started to look around on the bike. Hidden in the headlight bucket I found these three wire connectors:


                          Here they are separately:
                          1)
                          2)
                          3)

                          Looks like it may easier than expected after figuring out which wire is which. Anyone know off top of their head? Im about to dig deep into my Clymer's manual but any insight known from top of your heads would be appreciated. Thanks.
                          Mark - 1979 XS11 Standard (Pic 1, Pic 2) (Pic 3) (Pic 4)

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                          • #14
                            doh, mispost. Il correct it soon.
                            Mark - 1979 XS11 Standard (Pic 1, Pic 2) (Pic 3) (Pic 4)

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                            • #15
                              Guess I cannot edit my previous posts. Here are two pictures of the diagram, with one being a closeup of the headlight assembly. Sorry for the quality as they were taken with my phone.

                              http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_0464.jpg
                              http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_0465.jpg
                              Mark - 1979 XS11 Standard (Pic 1, Pic 2) (Pic 3) (Pic 4)

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