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This xs I am working on smokes, wont smoke while just setting there ideling, dont know much about the bike got it from karla and it use to belong to Charley Hause frend of Bob Jones, got ahold of him and he did not rember witch bike it was, gess he and bob traded alot, any way it will not smoke when you first start it like valve guide seals do, if i hold the revs up about 3 to 5000 it will start smoking white smoke, have not checked the compression yet, the thing runs like a scaled dog out on the road, it is a 79 standard with 80 carbs on it right now untill i get the 79 carbs rebuilt. it might be a little rich could this be washing down the cylinders and causeing it to smoke ?
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1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
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I am guessing its with the rings and not with the valve guides or seals.
I kinda of have the same problem right now. I pulled the head and put in new valve guides and seals and pulled the jugs off and checked all the rings and they were all still good. Cleaned out the oil holes on the piston skirt and put everything back together. Still smokes so this winter I am going to put new rings in her.Nathan
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
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yea thats kinda what i am afraid of, just dont want to tear it down right now, I have another good motor I could just put in there, got one short ride i want to make this week end with it. it is called ralph waynes vintage backyard nationals, the guy has been doing it for 18 years, you would not beleave the bikes that show up for this, like one big block party, bikes lined up all along the streets, if you are close to kc mo. heres the add. 8108 100th st, phone number for more info 816 763 8993Originally posted by natemoen View Post1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
when ya get bucked off, get back onComment
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In addition, if it sat for a while the rings might be stuck. I'd try putting some marvel mystery oil down the plug holes and let it sit for a couple of days and then spin it over a bit before putting the plugs back in and then ride it some. The rings may free up that way and fix the problem. I'd also just watch the oil consumption and ride it a bit. Both my engines started out smoking and after a bit it stopped (along with most of the oil consumption). On my current engine I find that the 15w40 diesel oil causes oil consumption and smoking, but 20w50 MC specific by Castrol doesn't use hardly any and doesn't smoke. I don't know why that is, but I'm gonna keep using that, especially since it's only about 75 cents a quart more, and I only have to buy 3 liters (yep, comes in liter bottles) for an oil change (even if I don't change the filter I pull it off and empty it out as part of the change process).Cy
1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
Vetter Windjammer IV
Vetter hard bags & Trunk
OEM Luggage Rack
Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
Spade Fuse Box
Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
750 FD Mod
TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
XJ1100 Front Footpegs
XJ1100 Shocks
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Check the crankcase level (on the centerstand of course), an overfilled case, whether due to overfilling or fuel leakage into the case, will cause exactly the symptom you describe. If its running like a purse snatcher, then the compression rings are fine, but the oil control ring set(s) being siezed can also cause this, but would generally appear on one side or the other as it is unlikely that all four oil ring sets would sieze and none of the compression rings would. An overfilled case would affect all four cylinders. Just food for thought...
'78 E "Stormbringer"
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Its 1 & 2 that the worstOriginally posted by ManagerMike View PostCheck the crankcase level (on the centerstand of course), an overfilled case, whether due to overfilling or fuel leakage into the case, will cause exactly the symptom you describe. If its running like a purse snatcher, then the compression rings are fine, but the oil control ring set(s) being siezed can also cause this, but would generally appear on one side or the other as it is unlikely that all four oil ring sets would sieze and none of the compression rings would. An overfilled case would affect all four cylinders. Just food for thought...1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
when ya get bucked off, get back onComment
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Also, If you do fall back on the oil rings as being suspect number one, they are likely to free up with use
Good luck!
'78 E "Stormbringer"
Purrs like a kitten, roars like a lion, runs like a gazelle (being chased by a cheetah).
pics http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/...tormbringer45/Comment
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I have not put that many miles on it sence i got it runing, maybe 1000 at the most, might take it on a 200 mile out and back run and see what it looks like when i get backOriginally posted by ManagerMike View PostAlso, If you do fall back on the oil rings as being suspect number one, they are likely to free up with use Good luck!
thanks1979 xs1100 f
142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
floats @ 25.7
1979 xs1100 F
1978 gl 1000 goldwing
1981 gl 1100 goldwing
!986 venture royale 1300
Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
when ya get bucked off, get back onComment
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It took almost 3k miles before mine stopped smoking, and that was with daily riding (and I do mean daily, as in EVERY day) for about 3 months.Originally posted by cowboybob998 View PostCy
1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
Vetter Windjammer IV
Vetter hard bags & Trunk
OEM Luggage Rack
Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
Spade Fuse Box
Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
750 FD Mod
TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
XJ1100 Front Footpegs
XJ1100 Shocks
I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.Comment
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