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    Ok guys, here it is so far: Bike is upside down....trans pan is off. Rotated rear tire......first gear missing 3 teeth!!!!!....now...my question is....with only 12,000 miles on bike will the need for the dremel job be necessary? Should I go on and purchase a newer gear set/drive........and hope its ok or, do the dremel fix on the new set of gears to make sure my problem is gone?
    At this time:
    1985 Goldwing Innr.
    1976 cb 750 cafe racer
    2007 vtx 1300
    81 sx 1100 s h
    81 sx 400 special

  • #2
    Check the new gears. They may already be under-cut. If they are not, I would do it before installing them, along with the washer swap (I know not everyone likes the washer swap mod).
    1980 XS850SG - Sold
    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
    -H. Ford

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    • #3
      Dremel fix.....

      Does anyone have complete pics of gears after the dremel fix?
      At this time:
      1985 Goldwing Innr.
      1976 cb 750 cafe racer
      2007 vtx 1300
      81 sx 1100 s h
      81 sx 400 special

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      • #4
        You mean like the ones in the Tech Tip?
        1980 XS850SG - Sold
        1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
        Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
        Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

        Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
        -H. Ford

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        • #5
          I already have copied that ....I need pics of the finished gears....to see what the fix looks like.
          Last edited by brcree; 09-23-2010, 04:21 PM.
          At this time:
          1985 Goldwing Innr.
          1976 cb 750 cafe racer
          2007 vtx 1300
          81 sx 1100 s h
          81 sx 400 special

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          • #6
            At this point your options are to buy a new gear or new gears at a cost of about $100 a gear. Or buy used gears. The new gears typically are already back cut the same as the dremel repair would do. Used ones may not be. So you may need to beack cut them after you buy them.

            I would not put a set of used gears in without dremel cutting the back cut into them.

            I would go ahead and finish pulling the countershaft out and see what the rest of the gears and the shaft and shift forks look like. Then you will have the full picture of what you are up against.

            If you find you need parts,let me know, I have the entire transmission out of Thunderstruck sitting on a bench waiting for a new home.
            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


            Previously owned
            93 GSX600F
            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
            81 XS1100 Special
            81 CB750 C
            80 CB750 C
            78 XS750

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            • #7
              Here are some of the after repair pics on the ones from Thunderstruck.

              5th dogs after cutting


              Side view of 5th


              2nd gear slots after cutting


              5th gear dogs after cutting top view


              The angle is very slight but you can just see it. The pics are a little fuzzy, the cam is not that good at close up photography.
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • #8
                I just merged your two threads so that your progress (and questions and answers) can be followed easier.
                "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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                • #9
                  Dremel fix

                  Thanks guys.....well i've found a few sets of used gears on E-Play but they dont look the samre as mine, gear size that is. Do all xs 1100 gear sets work for all 1100 years?
                  At this time:
                  1985 Goldwing Innr.
                  1976 cb 750 cafe racer
                  2007 vtx 1300
                  81 sx 1100 s h
                  81 sx 400 special

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                  • #10
                    Yes, the gears in all XS1100 and the XJ1100 are the same.

                    You may need to watch if they are selling the main shaft or the countershaft. The gears that are pulled and cut in the dremel fix are the countershaft set.
                    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                    Previously owned
                    93 GSX600F
                    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                    81 XS1100 Special
                    81 CB750 C
                    80 CB750 C
                    78 XS750

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                    • #11
                      Thanks DG.....big help!
                      At this time:
                      1985 Goldwing Innr.
                      1976 cb 750 cafe racer
                      2007 vtx 1300
                      81 sx 1100 s h
                      81 sx 400 special

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                      • #12
                        If you decide to bid on something on ebay, post a link here first and one of the members can help you be sure your getting the right parts.
                        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                        Previously owned
                        93 GSX600F
                        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                        81 XS1100 Special
                        81 CB750 C
                        80 CB750 C
                        78 XS750

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                        • #13
                          Sometimes you get lucky on Fleabay...I bought a used parts grab bag a couple of years ago that included the transmission, and it had the factory undercut gears in it.

                          Some of the bikes that had gear repairs done are coming up for parts auction these days, and maybe if you ask the right questions of the seller, you can find a set.

                          Just a thought
                          Guy

                          '78E

                          Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Guy,,,,DGxser is hooking me up with a set already done......you guys are the best! Hope I can help someone out like this sometime!
                            At this time:
                            1985 Goldwing Innr.
                            1976 cb 750 cafe racer
                            2007 vtx 1300
                            81 sx 1100 s h
                            81 sx 400 special

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