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  • Drag Launch??

    I only put on 2500 miles on my bike since I bought it a couple months ago so I am not completely comfortable with it yet. I would like to take it to a dragstrip and see what she has, but not sure what the best launching technique is. I am just curious to hear how you all are launching these bikes in this senario. I know every bike runs a little different but I would like to hear anyway.
    1979 XS1100S
    4 into 1 Mac Header (No baffle)
    4 single air pods
    Carb settings:
    45 pilot jet
    137.5 main jet
    Needle clip 3rd position
    25mm float height
    100mm stretched diaphram springs

  • #2
    Step 1- Before leaving for the track, get online and order some new clutch plates
    Step 2- Inflate front tire to around 40psi and lower rear tire pressure (I do like 20psi)
    Step 3- On the line, rev to 5-6 grand, and when the time comes, feather out the clutch hard while applying more throttle as you apply more clutch.

    It is a tricky thing to do in the matter of less than a second. I have not yet gotten it down consistently. It was a lot easier when I had the MSD iggy w/ the launch rev limiter. All you had to do was bury the throttle and worry about the clutch. Once the clutch switch circuit turned off, the rev limiter did too and all the while it was getting full throttle. This is my only gripe about the MS controller. There is no launch control unless you run different firmware.
    '81 XS1100 SH

    Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

    Sep. 12th 2015

    RIP

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    • #3
      In the instance where it was not consistent, what is the outcome? Stall, backward flip, wheel or just slower time??
      1979 XS1100S
      4 into 1 Mac Header (No baffle)
      4 single air pods
      Carb settings:
      45 pilot jet
      137.5 main jet
      Needle clip 3rd position
      25mm float height
      100mm stretched diaphram springs

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 81xsproject View Post
        Step 1- Before leaving for the track, get online and order some new clutch plates
        He's only half-kidding about this; the clutch in these is only 'adequate' given the power and weight of these bikes. Beat the snot out of it at the drags and a new clutch is probably in your future; one of the cycle mags killed the clutch in a new '78 while doing strip testing for their review.

        There's an 'extra plate' mod for these; you might want to look into that...
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
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        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
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        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          I actually install a barnett clutch kit about 1000 miles ago; it hooks very well.
          1979 XS1100S
          4 into 1 Mac Header (No baffle)
          4 single air pods
          Carb settings:
          45 pilot jet
          137.5 main jet
          Needle clip 3rd position
          25mm float height
          100mm stretched diaphram springs

          Comment


          • #6
            You need to practice some before you get to the track so you dont look a fool. By that I mean you want to know how your bike reacts so do some practice launches on your favorite back road. Rev'er up to 5000 rpm and feather the clutch out keeping your RPM's above 4000 rpm and dont shift any lower than 7500 RPM.
            Last edited by WMarshy; 09-15-2010, 10:41 AM.
            '79 XS11 F
            Stock except K&N

            '79 XS11 SF
            Stock, no title.

            '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
            GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

            "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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            • #7
              Race

              I just ran my bike sunday at norwlak in ohio. I ran it 4 times and never once did the clutch slip. Its a rush.

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              • #8
                Did you use the same technique described in this thread? What kind of numbers did you pull off?
                1979 XS1100S
                4 into 1 Mac Header (No baffle)
                4 single air pods
                Carb settings:
                45 pilot jet
                137.5 main jet
                Needle clip 3rd position
                25mm float height
                100mm stretched diaphram springs

                Comment


                • #9
                  I revved up to about 5000 and feathered the clutch out and shifted at about 7500. This was the first time i ever was down the track. my first run was 13.6,13.1,13.7 and a 12.6 every time i shut down early just due to lack of experiance. so I probably was closer to 12 or a little better.

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                  • #10
                    Your the second person that has mentioned a 7500 shift point. Has anyone seen the stock hp curve? I would think that a 8500 red line shift would be best, no?
                    1979 XS1100S
                    4 into 1 Mac Header (No baffle)
                    4 single air pods
                    Carb settings:
                    45 pilot jet
                    137.5 main jet
                    Needle clip 3rd position
                    25mm float height
                    100mm stretched diaphram springs

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I've done some drags this year, although it was at a 1/8 mile track and they had no clocks so IDK my times. I recently installed a tether kill switch so I can race at the local 1/4 mile and see what times I can turn... Keeping the rpm's above 4000 on launch is important b/c you main jets are being used and the power really comes on strong at 5000... Not many people will recommend winding these old mills up more than 7500. They will take it but for how long no one knows. I ride mine hard and push it up to 7k on a weakly basis but, with an engine that has 43,000 miles on it I don't care to push the limit that hard...
                      Last edited by WMarshy; 09-15-2010, 04:47 PM.
                      '79 XS11 F
                      Stock except K&N

                      '79 XS11 SF
                      Stock, no title.

                      '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                      GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                      "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                      • #12
                        if nobody knows how long these motors will last winding them up to 8500m rpm, then they must not be breaking and I'm sure there is plenty of us out there that like to wind them out often. My bike has 33,000 miles on, thats just broke in!! I take it to 8500 frequently; just can't resist.
                        1979 XS1100S
                        4 into 1 Mac Header (No baffle)
                        4 single air pods
                        Carb settings:
                        45 pilot jet
                        137.5 main jet
                        Needle clip 3rd position
                        25mm float height
                        100mm stretched diaphram springs

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Drumagician View Post
                          if nobody knows how long these motors will last winding them up to 8500m rpm, then they must not be breaking and I'm sure there is plenty of us out there that like to wind them out often. My bike has 33,000 miles on, thats just broke in!! I take it to 8500 frequently; just can't resist.
                          I've done it with no ill effects and will continue to do it ever so often but, its my only mode of transportation right now so I don't want to hurt it. If anything, it seems to run better after winding it out like that. Probably blows out some carbon build up... I also noticed the Jardine 4-1 I had on was a better performer up in that high range range... Shift it at the red I'm sure you'll be fine, its just personal preference...
                          Last edited by WMarshy; 09-15-2010, 05:20 PM.
                          '79 XS11 F
                          Stock except K&N

                          '79 XS11 SF
                          Stock, no title.

                          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                          GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                          "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drumagician View Post
                            Your the second person that has mentioned a 7500 shift point. Has anyone seen the stock hp curve? I would think that a 8500 red line shift would be best, no?
                            Hi Drummagician,
                            When BDF ran my stock 81H on the Dyno. Peak Horsepower was at 7200 rpm so a shift at 7500 would keep you in the powerband nicely.

                            Phil
                            1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                            1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                            2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by WMarshy View Post
                              I've done some drags this year, although it was at a 1/8 mile track and they had no clocks so IDK my times. I recently installed a tether kill switch so I can race at the local 1/4 mile and see what times I can turn... Keeping the rpm's above 4000 on launch is important b/c you main jets are being used and the power really comes on strong at 5000... Not many people will recommend winding these old mills up more than 7500. They will take it but for how long no one knows. I ride mine hard and push it up to 7k on a weakly basis but, with an engine that has 43,000 miles on it I don't care to push the limit that hard...
                              I too take mine to 8/8.5k regularly. No ill effects yet.
                              '81 XS1100 SH

                              Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                              Sep. 12th 2015

                              RIP

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