Air today, gone tomorrow.

[Joab]

So, apperantly, on the only run I got out of the bike, I managed to lose the #2 carb K&N air filter pod. Where is the best place to get a replacement? And how hard is it to find the stock air box setup for a 79 SF?

[crazy steve]

...And how hard is it to find the stock air box setup for a 79 SF?

I believe the airbox's are all the same for the XS models, with only the XJ having the odd one. So it shouldn't be that hard....

[SFerinTEXAS]

All are the same except the 80-81 box has the carb vent hose teats plugged, just have to open them up to hook up the vent hoses.

also if you do retrofit and feel it is too big a B**CH compared to pods there are some good suggestions on making the OE box more carb pulling friendly.

[Alan1982XJ]

there are some good suggestions on making the OE box more carb pulling friendly.

Is that so, well do share would ya? I hear podding messes with tune up but I'm still open for options on my XJ since I -hate- the airbox...

[dbeardslee]

So, apperantly, on the only run I got out of the bike, I managed to lose the #2 carb K&N air filter pod. Where is the best place to get a replacement? And how hard is it to find the stock air box setup for a 79 SF?

I hear podding messes with tune up but I'm still open for options on my XJ since I -hate- the airbox...

Whether you're going from pods to a stock box, or vise versa, it's going to change the mixture. If it was jetted properly for the pods, going back to the stock air box is probably going to result in a rich condition. Drilling the air box will get you closer, but the jets are probably still going to be a little big - again if it was jetted for the pods. If all you need is one pod, you might try mikes xs. Their pods are pretty much the same as the K & N's but for $16 ea. It's a lot easier to get your carbs on and off with pods. JAT

[SFerinTEXAS]

Sorry Alan1982XJ We are talking about the XS not XJ. When I was doing my XJ restore I tried to fit an XS box in it. No go , wont fit back far enough. I used pods to do all my carb function test and pulled them back off replaced to OE box and did final carb tuning with OE box in place.Its true the XJ is harder to pull the cabs than the XS with OE box.

[DGXSER]

Although DBeardslee and I have debated this issue before ( he hates the factory airbox and I like it, it takes him a while to get the carbs on and off with it, and I can get them off in ten minutes and on in fifteen.) he is correct it will mess up the jetting going back and forth provided the carbs were jetted correctly in the first place.

The mods on the XS are to remove the top loop bracket that goes over the mount in front of the fuel tank mount. then cut the "snorkel" hose down to about 1-2" long. With these changes, the farctory airbox will drop out form behind the carbs allowing you to pull them sans airbox. But you still get the fun of pushing those air stacks back onto the intake horns od the carbs.

If you want either one the 78-79 version or the 80-81 version, I have both available in nice condition. Send me a PM if interested.

[natemoen]

Although DBeardslee and I have debated this issue before ( he hates the factory airbox and I like it, it takes him a while to get the carbs on and off with it, and I can get them off in ten minutes and on in fifteen.) he is correct it will mess up the jetting going back and forth provided the carbs were jetted correctly in the first place.

The mods on the XS are to remove the top loop bracket that goes over the mount in front of the fuel tank mount. then cut the "snorkel" hose down to about 1-2" long. With these changes, the farctory airbox will drop out form behind the carbs allowing you to pull them sans airbox. But you still get the fun of pushing those air stacks back onto the intake horns od the carbs.

If you want either one the 78-79 version or the 80-81 version, I have both available in nice condition. Send me a PM if interested.

You need to specify that you remove the loop from the bracket and no the bracket itself. I left the bracket on the airbox and just cut it off so that I didnt have to mess with all the little parts in the airbox.

[Joab]

Thanks guys, I know two POs ago they rejetted the carbs when the pods went on, but I really have no information on what exactly they did. The exhaust is a 4 into 1...something. I dont like it myself, but the budget isn't allowing for a new exhaust right now. Especially if the bike decides to keep shedding parts at random.

I thought I had read somewhere that someone had installed a K&N filter into the stock airbox using a cut to fit piece of material from K&N? If I did that, do you think I'd still need to change the jets?

I mean, not that I can get the damn thing to run anyhow right now, so its not that big of a deal.

[DGXSER]

Joab, I would think that changing back to the airbox will require rejetting. But then, you can get jets for about $4 a piece IIRC from the local yammarobbers, least I can.

As to getting it running, there are planty of REALLY smart people on here who will help you get it going. If it starts and runs, then most likely it is somethign small that is your issue. Keep giving the group all the symptoms and they will help you identify the cause and the cure.

[tadtl1]

Georgefix

Hi Joab,

If you go with pod replacements, then georgefix on ebay has the emgo pods, I think he can sell them one at a time.
If you decide to go with a stock airbox, Don ,, DGXSER, in cinci , has one and from what he says, knows the hot technique for minimizing your airbox removeal bad language,,or maybe I should say, my bad airbox language. Don is a good guy to buy from too.

[DGXSER]

You need to specify that you remove the loop from the bracket and no the bracket itself. I left the bracket on the airbox and just cut it off so that I didnt have to mess with all the little parts in the airbox.

Nate,

You certainly can do it that way.

If your nitpicky enough and do not want to ruin the bracket cause...well...maybe one day you want to use it again. Or maybe you just don;t like cutting up things you do not have to. Then you could remove the screws, carefully planned out, and remove the bracket without TO much hassle with those interior brackets and such. I've put a couple together now and it ain't fun, but it is certainly not impossible. Easier than getting the shift forks or countershaft back in when doing the tranny fix! So while you can cut it, you can also just remove it. The screws can tighten up to the plastic or rubber underneath the bracket IIRC.

[natemoen]

Very true. I just didn't enjoy putting it back together. And still have not found that tube nut...