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    Hi all,

    Well it's been a real busy summer and my bike sat for a few weeks without getting run. When this happens I try to at least start it and run it for a few minutes once per weekend. But I can't remember if I got to do that last weekend.

    Anyway, I wanted to go ride today and started it up, it ran normally, warmed up, and off I went to the gas station (2 blocks away). All was normal until I was almost back to the house. I noticed the right tail pipe was spewing white smoke.

    Might this be as the other posts indicate:
    "one or more stuck rings and may go away after a short ride. If it does not go away then it may be valve seals or a ring/cylinder problem"?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
    • 1979 XS1100SF Special Hybrid


    In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.

  • #2
    Originally posted by equinox1216 View Post
    Hi all,


    spewing white smoke.

    Might this be as the other posts indicate:
    "one or more stuck rings and may go away after a short ride. If it does not go away then it may be valve seals or a ring/cylinder problem"?
    Spewing is never good, but if its been sitting a couple of weeks, could definetly could be a valve.
    Good luck,
    Dan
    Current Rides: '82 XJ w/Jardine 4-1's, GIVI flyscreen, '97 Triumph Trophy 1200
    Former Rides: '71 CB350, '78 400 Hawk, '75 CB550/4;
    while in Japan: '86 KLR250, '86 VT250Z, '86 XL600R, '82 CB450(Hawk II), '96 750 Nighthawk, '96 BMW F650

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    • #3
      Run a compression test. When is it smoking? All the time, on deceleration or acceleration?
      Rob
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • #4
        Are you sure it's White smoke? White smoke is usually a sign of moisture in the oil getting into the combustion chamber, in automotive it's usually caused by antifreeze and a leaking head gasket. Light Blue smoke can appear white in the right light, and thats caused by burning oil, which can come from rings, valve stems, etc. Black smoke is caused by incorrect fuel/air mixture.
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        2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

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        • #5
          Gas

          It warmed up fine, ran fine you had just put gas in it and by the time you got home it was smoking? You said you noticed one side smoking, is the other side smoking at all, if so, I would drain and refill the gas, a cheap check and you can keep the gas to use later if it not the gas. We had a station down here that three of our cars ran like crap and smoked and the lawn mower died and wouln't run at all from one gas station, they have sence shut it down till they find out what is up, and it was a Shell, not an off brand
          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
          1980 XS1100 Special
          1990 V Max
          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
          1974 CB750-Four



          Past/pres Car's
          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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          • #6
            Good point. Not something we consider first over here. Our fuel comes from only one refinery and the quality controls are high.
            1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
            2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

            Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

            "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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            • #7
              Sounds like water in the fuel to me, and our bikes do have two fuelcocks each feeding either side of the engine. Possibly the gas station's underground tank(s) were near empty and you picked up a bit of H2O.
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              • #8
                The gas idea probably would not have been my first thought
                Nathan
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                • #9
                  yes

                  Originally posted by ManagerMike View Post
                  Sounds like water in the fuel to me, and our bikes do have two fuelcocks each feeding either side of the engine. Possibly the gas station's underground tank(s) were near empty and you picked up a bit of H2O.
                  Yes, two petcocks, and if the octy has been removed, one p/c could fuel one side of the motor and be the first one to pickup the water in the tank
                  1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                  1980 XS1100 Special
                  1990 V Max
                  1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                  1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                  1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                  1974 CB750-Four



                  Past/pres Car's
                  1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by equinox1216 View Post
                    Hi all,

                    Well it's been a real busy summer and my bike sat for a few weeks without getting run. When this happens I try to at least start it and run it for a few minutes once per weekend. But I can't remember if I got to do that last weekend.

                    Anyway, I wanted to go ride today and started it up, it ran normally, warmed up, and off I went to the gas station (2 blocks away). All was normal until I was almost back to the house. I noticed the right tail pipe was spewing white smoke.

                    Might this be as the other posts indicate:
                    "one or more stuck rings and may go away after a short ride. If it does not go away then it may be valve seals or a ring/cylinder problem"?

                    Thanks in advance for your help.
                    Are you certain that it is not overfilled with oil? Check the oil level with the bike sitting level, not on the side stand.

                    If it's overfilled it will spew oil into the airbox from the crankcase vent and it'll get sucked into the carbs and your bike will become a mosquito fogger.

                    Might not show up in the garage but would manifest itself riding.

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                    • #11
                      Also, if gas has leaked into the oil, you could have gas-oil.Which can cause it to smoke as well as possibly burn up crank bearings.
                      80 SG XS1100
                      14 Victory Cross Country

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                      • #12
                        How was it running when it was blowing the smoke?
                        One thing that will make it blow white smoke is diesel fuel! Saw a car some years back that was mistakenly topped up from a diesel bowser. It left a massive white smoke trail for miles till the constabulary pulled him up for the hazard he was causing
                        79 SF Special W/ Stock all original motor @ 384,000klms
                        Stock exhaust, stock airbox, XJ sump, 78E carbs, Xs1100RH seat, Bosch superhorns, 5/8ths front M/c, braided lines, sintered SBS pads, drilled discs, progressive springs, 8" 50w HID headlight 4300K, 2 x 50w HID spiral driving lights, KONI shocks, Spade fuse box
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                        • #13
                          White 'smoke' is usually from head gasket leaks in a water cooled engine!

                          My guess would be water in your exhuast pipe. It should burn out fairly quickly.

                          All my XS's have a tendency to blow smoke for a bit after sitting for a while.

                          Usually more blue though....
                          Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

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                          • #14
                            blue smoke

                            Originally posted by Crazcnuk View Post
                            White 'smoke' is usually from head gasket leaks in a water cooled engine!

                            My guess would be water in your exhuast pipe. It should burn out fairly quickly.

                            All my XS's have a tendency to blow smoke for a bit after sitting for a while.

                            Usually more blue though....
                            My "guess" on blus smoke at start up after sitting for a while sounds like valve seals. Would like to hear back after he drains and refills the tank, if he does, water or other stuff in the gas could be what happened as it showed up right after he filled up
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #15
                              Just a smart @#ss remark! I had a Mercury once that let out a horrific white smoke all of a sudden. Turns out yours must be the same thing. It is a bad trans. vacume modulator gone bad, and sucking automatic trans fluid into the combustion chamber. Just a little ha ha at a troubling time. Hope it is just water in the exhaust.
                              1980 XS1100LG Midnight
                              1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


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