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    Here's what's possible to do to the stock wheels...

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    ...if you have lots of time on your hands. I'll never admit how long this took but no machine tools were involved; all work was done with hand-held tools. These were terrible castings, and getting them smooth was a huge PITA. These still need a bit of final buffing (need to order some felt cones) and new paint at the hubs and inside the spokes, but are pretty much done. These are the reason I haven't made any progress on my FJ fork swap...

    '78E original owner
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

  • #2
    Did you grind off the ridge around the inside of the wheels between the spokes?

    Will that effect wheel strength?
    Guy

    '78E

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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    • #3
      Nice!

      Nice polish job, are you goung to re paint the black?
      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
      1980 XS1100 Special
      1990 V Max
      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
      1974 CB750-Four



      Past/pres Car's
      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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      • #4
        I knew somebody would ask this...

        Originally posted by Guy_b_g View Post
        Did you grind off the ridge around the inside of the wheels between the spokes?

        Will that effect wheel strength?
        Yes I did, and the short answer is no.

        I looked at a lot of wheel designs, and came to the conclusion that a big part of this wheel design was to hide the fact that these are not precision castings. The 'register' between the two halves of the sand molds was not good, and this design allowed them to hide that fact without a lot of finish work. That center lip is also there to give you a place to attach wheel weights; as far as offering impact resistance, the outer lip will be toast long before you get to the center of the wheel. That's also the thickest part of the wheel (even after the rework) not including the hub.

        These wheels still have seven stout H-beam spokes; compared to the MNS/XJ 'swirly' wheels with ten skinny spokes (curved no less for poor stress transfer), I don't see any problems...

        As to the color, it's either going to be silver or body color... haven't made up my mind on that.

        '78E original owner
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          I think I do not want to know how long that took to.

          Looks like months of work!! Very nice.
          Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

          When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


          Previously owned
          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
          80 CB750 C
          78 XS750

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          • #6
            Paint

            I think they look great! The castings are as strong as any IMHO and can take some mods/grinding/polishing. There is a paint Co. that makes "chrome" paint used by BMW and many others on wheels. See below if you might go silver.


            http://www.alsacorp.com/
            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
            1980 XS1100 Special
            1990 V Max
            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
            1974 CB750-Four



            Past/pres Car's
            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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            • #7
              Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
              There is a paint Co. that makes "chrome" paint used by BMW and many others on wheels. See below if you might go silver.


              http://www.alsacorp.com/
              Geez!!! $1500 for 'basic' setup??!! A little out of my price range I think

              '78E original owner
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                Geez!!! $1500 for 'basic' setup??!! A little out of my price range I think

                '78E original owner
                Stop being so cheap!

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                • #9
                  I knew somebody would ask this...
                  just thought I'd get it outta the way for ya...

                  I think you should sell those to me for a couple hundred $ and I'll send you another set...it should be much easier to do them now that you've got it down...
                  Last edited by Guy_b_g; 07-23-2010, 07:33 PM.
                  Guy

                  '78E

                  Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                    - - - These wheels still have seven stout H-beam spokes; compared to the MNS/XJ 'swirly' wheels with ten skinny spokes (curved no less for poor stress transfer), I don't see any problems...
                    Hi Steve,
                    FWIW, the Victorian foundrymen couldn't pour a cast iron wheels if they had straight spokes because they busted off as the product shrank during cooling. The swirly spokes would flex a bit to prevent this.
                    It wasn't "fashion" for those guys, it was necessity.
                    Fred Hill, S'toon
                    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                    • #11
                      Very impressive. I thought about doing that once, but it was hard enough just getting the paint off! (PS, the 78 was easier than the 81.)
                      Skids (Sid Hansen)

                      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                      • #12
                        paint

                        Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                        Geez!!! $1500 for 'basic' setup??!! A little out of my price range I think

                        '78E original owner
                        You can buy the paint in spray cans and clear coat for a few bucks, about$90.00 for both. The "Killer" clear is two part auto paint/hardener, IE (gas and chem. resistant) This is also the best way to paint a tank and not have to fear the dreaded "gas drip" on your paint. Come on, suck it up, you got $1,000.00 of grinding/polishing labor in those wheels already (LOL)
                        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                        1980 XS1100 Special
                        1990 V Max
                        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                        1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                        1974 CB750-Four



                        Past/pres Car's
                        1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                        • #13
                          Ok

                          OK, it is a bit over a $100.00, it is a buck fifteen I have 5 cans just sitting in a box just if I need some for something.

                          http://www.alsacorp.com/killercans.htm
                          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                          1980 XS1100 Special
                          1990 V Max
                          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                          1974 CB750-Four



                          Past/pres Car's
                          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                          • #14
                            Actually, I've got some 'chrome' powdercoat that I was originally going to use but decided against it for several reasons; one, the 'chrome' effect is lost on the rough-cast surfaces, as it pretty much ends up looking like really glossy silver paint when I did some test pieces. Two, to powdercoat the wheels I'd have to knock all the bearings out (ruining them) because the sealed-in grease in them would cook while curing the powder. Three, finish durability isn't that great; the 'chrome' finish shows defects/mars much more than standard powdercoating (yeah, it was a big disappointment) and wear from just normal cleaning/washing showed up faster that I liked. The stuff looks reasonably good on smaller items, not so great on larger stuff....

                            '78E original owner
                            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                            '78E original owner - resto project
                            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                            '82 XJ rebuild project
                            '80SG restified, red SOLD
                            '79F parts...
                            '81H more parts...

                            Other current bikes:
                            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                            • #15
                              Cs

                              Well the stuff I am talking about needs no heat cure and if you have seen a BMW or Jaguar "chrome" colored wheel, you have seen it. As far as holding up, if you have seen a BMW or Jaguar "chrome" colored wheel, that is how it holds up. Got turned on to it because I have three BMW's and one Jaguar with this stuff on the wheels and It looks great IMHO. Nothing can = chrome but this stuff is nice, think it is what yamaha used on V Max scoops also.
                              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                              1980 XS1100 Special
                              1990 V Max
                              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                              1974 CB750-Four



                              Past/pres Car's
                              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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