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    I had to remove the cylinder head off my XJ1100. After cleaning and reassembly I lost most of the rubber insulators that were in the head. They fell out and were never seen again. Since then the bike has a terrible vibration around 4000 rpm and up. I have been looking for some replacements but can't find any. Every OEM parts list I see lists them as not available. Does anyone know a source for these? How about interchangeability between other Yamahas like the 650/750 and 900 engines.
    Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
    Current rides:
    80 XS1100SG
    82 JX1100
    83 Venture Royale
    86 V-Max

  • #2
    insulators

    Hi, try Bikebandit.com,,,,I think there was a post way back that someone in the group used cut pieces of rubber tubing, like auto gas hose or vacuum hose and it worked just fine. Good luck,,,,Mike in S.Diego
    mike
    1982 xj1100 maxim
    1981 venture bagger
    1999 Kawi Nomad 1500 greenie
    1959 wife

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    • #3
      I looked on bikebandit.com , not available for the XJ1100 or any model XS1100. I thought about rubber tubing but the head temperature would most likley melt them. I'll asume the head temperature is around 300 deg while running, maybe higher.
      Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
      Current rides:
      80 XS1100SG
      82 JX1100
      83 Venture Royale
      86 V-Max

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      • #4
        Being those choices are hollow........wounld'nt resolve the problem. Sure there's some sort of round rubber out there that you could cut into pieces.
        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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        • #5
          I have a spare head lying on a shelf in my garage. I could take a look and see if it still has the bits you are missing and mail them to you if you like. If I ever use the spare head, I'd just transfer my existing to it.
          K. Johnson
          -1978 XS750SF - brought back from the dead with carb
          triple clean and boots
          -1982 XJ1100J - brought back from the dead by
          replacing motor after throwing #4 rod
          -1985 XJ750XN - shim job, oil change, ride. not bad for
          $500 including new rear tire.

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          • #6
            I dont see why you couldnt use the XS650-850 ones... Might not get the correct number of bits you need but they might be the correct thickness...ya think?
            '79 XS11 F
            Stock except K&N

            '79 XS11 SF
            Stock, no title.

            '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
            GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

            "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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            • #7
              I doubt those missing insulators are the source of your vibration; they were installed originally merely to quiet the bike. There's lots of XS11s running around with those missing with no ill effects. So I'd suggest looking for another problem...

              '78E original owner
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                I doubt those missing insulators are the source of your vibration; they were installed originally merely to quiet the bike. There's lots of XS11s running around with those missing with no ill effects. So I'd suggest looking for another problem...

                '78E original owner
                Yep, I never put them back on my bike, no noise of vibrations from my fins ..
                1980 SG - "Blue Balls"

                Complete Restoration - Finished June 21/2010

                - 1179 kit
                - 80/81 carbs 42.5/115 mains with XS pods
                - Mac 4 into 1 exhaust
                - Venture auto CCT
                - progressive fork springs - no air
                - Mike's progressive rear shocks
                - Galfer S.S. Brake Lines
                - XSDirect - Black Coils
                - 8 mm S.S. Core Plug Wires
                - T.C. fuse box
                - TKat fork brace
                - Geezer regulator
                - Battlax BT45 V-Rated tires
                - 5W40 - Rotella T6 Synth Engine Oil
                - rest of bike is "good old Yamaha"

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                • #9
                  What would be the source of a vibration in the engine when it runs 4000 + rpm. It did not do it before the head was removed and nothine else was changed or modified. The engine runs great and the bike has never been down.
                  Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
                  Current rides:
                  80 XS1100SG
                  82 JX1100
                  83 Venture Royale
                  86 V-Max

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                  • #10
                    I would look at the exhaust first. If the pipes hit the frame ANYWHERE that isn't a rubber mounting point, they will make a huge vibration issue.
                    1980 XS850SG - Sold
                    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                    -H. Ford

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                    • #11
                      im with steve, those rubbers missing wont cause
                      a vibration, u stated u had the head off, what work
                      have you done to the engine?
                      have u synced the carbs and tuned it correctly.
                      pete


                      new owner of
                      08 gen2 hayabusa


                      former owner
                      1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                      zrx carbs
                      18mm float height
                      145 main jets
                      38 pilots
                      slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                      fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                      [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                      • #12
                        I'd start by looking at the exhaust system, particularly for cracks. From there, anything that came off when you pulled the head. Something is probably loose or rubbing.

                        '78E original owner
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • #13
                          I had the head off to replace a bent intake valve. Stupid mistake on my part , rolled the engine to far durring a valve adjustment. The carbs have been tuned and synced. The noise it is making starts around 4000 rpm and gets louder to 6000 rpm then fades from there up. It is kind of a "whooshing or hissing" sound. I know I have a small exhaust leak at the left side muffler connection. It is not really noticable but it makes the muffler pop some when deaccelerating. The rest of the exhaust is good and tight
                          Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
                          Current rides:
                          80 XS1100SG
                          82 JX1100
                          83 Venture Royale
                          86 V-Max

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                          • #14
                            You may be hearing normal valve train noise. Noises are really tough to diagnose long-distance and I'm rarely good at it, but there's been several recent posts about similar issues and that seemed to be what was being heard. If you've re-done the head, I can only assume that you adjusted the valve clearances while you were in there. The valve clearance on these gets tighter as things wear (the opposite of what you'd expect), so a valve adjustment will tend to make the motor noisier.

                            '78E original owner
                            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                            '78E original owner - resto project
                            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                            '82 XJ rebuild project
                            '80SG restified, red SOLD
                            '79F parts...
                            '81H more parts...

                            Other current bikes:
                            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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