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  • #16
    9.2

    Looks like 9.2 to me 81 +.

    http://www.xtreemedecals.com/yamahai...1100_1981.html
    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
    1980 XS1100 Special
    1990 V Max
    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
    1974 CB750-Four



    Past/pres Car's
    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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    • #17
      Sorry dude that info is incorrect!!! Go to the section on this site that has the origional yamaha info the 78 79 have higher compression heads and smaller valves the 80 and newer have 9.0 to 1 trust me that other site is wrong!!! I have been here a while and have a screaming fast bike!!!
      " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

      79 xs11 standard
      xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
      8mm msd wires
      tkat fork brace...
      Fox shocks...
      mikes650 front fender
      led's gallore...
      renthal bars
      gold valve emulators
      vmax tensioner
      Rifle fairing

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      • #18
        Ok dude I am on a droid so I don't know how to copy and paste yet but go to the top of the screen look at adds and brochur8es then click on the 80 model. Read thbe specs 9.0to 1. Also the 78and79 had more timing. Even if a 80or newer ha a big bore they can't beat a 78 or 79.
        " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

        79 xs11 standard
        xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
        8mm msd wires
        tkat fork brace...
        Fox shocks...
        mikes650 front fender
        led's gallore...
        renthal bars
        gold valve emulators
        vmax tensioner
        Rifle fairing

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        • #19
          Problem with trying to "up the horses" on an XS is that it gets pricey.
          You can have your cams done ($300.00+)
          Big bore kit ($600.00+)
          Above close to a waste of time w/o the head done and new exhaust,
          then maybe some new carbs ...

          get radical with chops chain drive ...
          a squirt of nitros ...
          or a turbo ...
          Then go out and watch one of the new super bikes pass you while it's going 150 MPH +++

          mro
          You would have a pretty fast XS tho
          And they do stomp on hardleys pretty good
          And with most of the above mods will take a V rod too.

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          • #20
            I have taken 3 vrods they are sh%*. They top out lower thaN an xs
            " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

            79 xs11 standard
            xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
            8mm msd wires
            tkat fork brace...
            Fox shocks...
            mikes650 front fender
            led's gallore...
            renthal bars
            gold valve emulators
            vmax tensioner
            Rifle fairing

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            • #21
              HD's

              You beat some HD's? I never considered HD's as anything to race. We are talking 30 year old yamaha tech. and HD is still trying to catch up? My V max was fast QTR but my 1100 has more class and style.
              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
              1980 XS1100 Special
              1990 V Max
              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
              1974 CB750-Four



              Past/pres Car's
              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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              • #22
                Hey there OEM,

                Don't feel bad, we find mistakes on sites and even in Printed products of expected authority...ie. Clymer's Manual!

                Here's a link to the OFFICIAL YAMAHA site:
                http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/parts/home.aspx
                Just select Motorcyle, then year, and then model. They don't post things like the specs sheets on every year/model....but the ones for the major engine change is on the 80G Service DATA page.

                It's been debated that the 10.25:1 ratio that WISECO promises was only for the 78-79 engines partly due to them having a smaller head dome, so the more prominent domed Wiseco pistons created more compression.

                I put the small 1179cc kit in my 81SH. Stock compression is stated to be ~142 +/- 14 PSI at sea level. However, after I got it broken in, I tested it, and it came out to ~180 psi, which is very close in my humble calculations to close to the stated 10+:1 ratio. I've retested it several thousand miles later and it wasn't artificially elevated due to excessive carbon buildup from the gentle breakin !
                T.C.
                T. C. Gresham
                81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                History shows again and again,
                How nature points out the folly of men!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                  I put the small 1179cc kit in my 81SH. Stock compression is stated to be ~142 +/- 14 PSI at sea level. However, after I got it broken in, I tested it, and it came out to ~180 psi, which is very close in my humble calculations to close to the stated 10+:1 ratio. I've retested it several thousand miles later and it wasn't artificially elevated due to excessive carbon buildup from the gentle breakin !
                  T.C.
                  Interesting stuff as I tested my 79SF when I got it with 56kmi and it was 180-185psi. The PO tells me it's never been into through the 45kmi he put on it. My 80 & 81 are running 150-165psi.
                  Richard

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                  • #24
                    Thanks, TC

                    Yes, there are many spec's on the internet, some right, some not so much, just tried to pass on a link to one, right or wrong, dont know
                    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                    1980 XS1100 Special
                    1990 V Max
                    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                    1974 CB750-Four



                    Past/pres Car's
                    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                    • #25
                      And just so you all know, you CAN get a "stroker" crank for the XS. I must say, my "balanced" crank(14K RPM), with 4 shot peened rods, was almost $900! It's still in a box, as I'm trying to get one of the '79's running so I can sell it, and put time into the '78. I DO have the 1196 kit AND a ported head for it. Yes, I will have a nice looking "hot rod", and I know the larger modern bikes will outrun it. My thing is, they just don't have the CLASS of an XS!
                      Ray Matteis
                      KE6NHG
                      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                      • #26
                        Yes Driver!

                        I get you, They can buy a box rocket that will do 9's out of the box or 190 mph, yes tech has come a long way, but CLASS is forever and cant be duplacated! The XS1100, like the first musle car (GTO, owned 3 of them) is and always will be a first!
                        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                        1980 XS1100 Special
                        1990 V Max
                        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                        1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                        1974 CB750-Four



                        Past/pres Car's
                        1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
                          And just so you all know, you CAN get a "stroker" crank for the XS. I must say, my "balanced" crank(14K RPM), with 4 shot peened rods, was almost $900! It's still in a box, as I'm trying to get one of the '79's running so I can sell it, and put time into the '78. I DO have the 1196 kit AND a ported head for it. Yes, I will have a nice looking "hot rod", and I know the larger modern bikes will outrun it. My thing is, they just don't have the CLASS of an XS!
                          Ok, you got my curiosity piqued; how much stroke? Is this a new piece, or a weld-and-regrind deal? Your max rpm will be reduced a bit, but it should fatten the mid-range very nicely... And how big overall with the big-bore kit?

                          '78E original owner
                          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                          '78E original owner - resto project
                          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                          '82 XJ rebuild project
                          '80SG restified, red SOLD
                          '79F parts...
                          '81H more parts...

                          Other current bikes:
                          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                          • #28
                            DiverRay

                            "Stroker" most often means longer stroke? That would mean less RPM and more torque? Guess you have a short stroke kit for less displacement, shorter rod's, higher RPM? Shot peened rod's are just rods that have been surface blasted with shot to add to rpm hold up (after magnaflux I hope). They would have to be shorter for a 14,000 RPM motor. Where did you get this stuff and how does it work?
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME
                              Ment 14,000 RPM
                              I see your two posts are only three minutes apart. For future reference, you have like 5-10 minutes that you can edit a post if you make a mistake or have a change of heart.
                              '81 XS1100 SH

                              Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                              Sep. 12th 2015

                              RIP

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                              • #30
                                My crank was "just" balanced. To have it stroked was going to be another $600 to $800. Rods were supposed to be fully inspected, and yes, they do need your old crank to stroke. My problem with that is I would have to buy new rods if I had the crank stroked even 2mm. They would have cost about $2,000, so that was out.
                                Ray Matteis
                                KE6NHG
                                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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