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    Hi All

    I haven't posted in ages because, well, both bike & trike have been running like a dream

    However, I'm after an oil cooler (and all other bits & bobs associated with it) for my trike - it really doesn't like the hot weather in the UK at the moment.

    I've only seen new 'kits' for sale on ebay at the moment which are v. expensive - and 2nd hand coolers seem pretty rare.

    Do any other coolers fit the XS11 ? I guess the only 'xs' bit I'd need really is the oil filter cover with the hose attachments ?

    If anyone has an old one kicking around, I'd happily take it off their hands !

    Cheers
    Chris
    XS1100 Powered Trike - 1980 engine ?
    (http://www.catdna.co.uk/album/slides/IMG_2984.JPG)

    XS1100 F - with an SG engine

  • #2
    This is http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14704 what you are looking for.
    '81 1100 MNS - "Midnight XSpress"
    Original except:
    120 mains outer cylinders - 125 mains inner cylinders - Ceramic headers - Powder coated pipes, covers calipers, and MC's
    4 pods - Air box gutted--E3 Plugs - High Back seat - Grooved out swing arm - SS brake lines
    Fork brace - 160 speedo - Auto CCT
    All gold paint and chrome replaced with GOLD plate

    "STUPID is Forever" Ron White.
    Contact me by PM -I don't deal with stupid anymore.

    Big John

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jmnjrpa View Post
      This is http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14704 what you are looking for.
      Oooh ... now that looks just the ticket !

      I'm guessing I can use any old cooler I can find with suitable hoses ?

      Gonna have to get in touch with TC again -I already have his fusebox mod on my bike

      Cheers
      Chris
      XS1100 Powered Trike - 1980 engine ?
      (http://www.catdna.co.uk/album/slides/IMG_2984.JPG)

      XS1100 F - with an SG engine

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      • #4
        I have noticed a lot of the coolers and hoses on ebay. They are usually removed while the adapter is left on.
        '81 1100 MNS - "Midnight XSpress"
        Original except:
        120 mains outer cylinders - 125 mains inner cylinders - Ceramic headers - Powder coated pipes, covers calipers, and MC's
        4 pods - Air box gutted--E3 Plugs - High Back seat - Grooved out swing arm - SS brake lines
        Fork brace - 160 speedo - Auto CCT
        All gold paint and chrome replaced with GOLD plate

        "STUPID is Forever" Ron White.
        Contact me by PM -I don't deal with stupid anymore.

        Big John

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        • #5
          Find a radiator shop in your area. Sometimes they can make what you want for pretty cheap and then they also might have some second hand ones that they have repaired that they can sell too.
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

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          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            TC's setup would be the way to go, assuming you've got enough clearance with your exhaust pipes. I know the SOFA won't work with Jardine 4/1's, but as to what others I can't say. The other option is to get rid of the oil delivery pipe on the back of the motor, and use some banjo fittings and oil line to go over the top of the motor to the cooler. Almost any small radiator will work for the cooler, and the bigger the radiator the more cooling is going to happen, assuming the passages are big enough for oil to flow through.
            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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            • #7
              Hi Chris, as they didn't fit the oil coolers to the American XS11s but they did to the European ones you might be best off posting a 'wanted' ad on the XS1100UK forum. Should save on postage as well
              Brian
              XS1100 LG "Mr T", SG "ICBM" & FJ1200
              Check out the XS Part Number Finder

              Be not stingy in what costs nothing as courtesy, counsel and countenance.

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              • #8
                I have one from an XS850 in my stash but I haven't decided if I'm going to use it yet. Watch for the XS850 ones on eBay, they turn up there from time to time...

                Geezer
                Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                • #9
                  I have a new unused SOFCA from TC. I never installed it as my streetfighter sat too low....First $50 takes it USPS PRIORITY to the US-48...Just PM
                  MDRNF
                  79F.....Not Stock
                  80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                  • #10
                    EDIT...should have checked my messages first....maybe sold
                    MDRNF
                    79F.....Not Stock
                    80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                    • #11
                      oil cooler

                      On the back of the motor there is a oil feed line that goes from the crankcase to the head, I seen a couple of bikes at Bob jones shop that had oil coolers on them that just split this line, one line going into the cooler and one comeing back to the head, looked perty simple to me, keeps the lines away from all that heat from the exhaust, there may be some one on here that has done this and knows more about it.
                      If you want a spin on oil filter then tc's is the way to go.
                      Last edited by cowboybob998; 07-09-2010, 03:55 PM.
                      1979 xs1100 f
                      142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                      floats @ 25.7

                      1979 xs1100 F
                      1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                      1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                      !986 venture royale 1300

                      Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                      when ya get bucked off, get back on

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cowboybob998 View Post
                        On the back of the motor there is a oil feed line that goes from the crankcase to the head, I seen a couple of bikes at Bob jones shop that had oil coolers on them that just split this line, one line going into the cooler and one comeing back to the head, looked perty simple to me, keeps the lines away from all that heat from the exhaust, there may be some one on here that has done this and knows more about it.
                        If you want a spin on oil filter then tc's is the way to go.
                        My concern about that is that you could potentially lower oil pressure to the cams. It would really suck if you burnt out the bearing surfaces in the head. If you do it this way, I would think braided stainless lines would be worth the cost...

                        Geezer
                        Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                        The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Geezer View Post
                          My concern about that is that you could potentially lower oil pressure to the cams. It would really suck if you burnt out the bearing surfaces in the head. If you do it this way, I would think braided stainless lines would be worth the cost...

                          Geezer
                          I would think braided stainless lines would be the way to go no matter how you mount it. Oil is about as important as brake fluid so if you go to stainless lines for the brakes why not for the oil!
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

                          μολὼν λαβέ

                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #14
                            oil pressure

                            Originally posted by Geezer View Post
                            My concern about that is that you could potentially lower oil pressure to the cams. It would really suck if you burnt out the bearing surfaces in the head. If you do it this way, I would think braided stainless lines would be worth the cost...

                            Geezer
                            You may be right about the oil pressure, do you know is there a check valve in the oil line on the back of the motor to keep it from draing back, if not then the oil will drain back to the crank any way, so I think it would not make a deference if there is no check valve, would the volume of oil in the cooler cause lose of pressure on start up of the motor, i like the idea of SS lines.
                            1979 xs1100 f
                            142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                            floats @ 25.7

                            1979 xs1100 F
                            1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                            1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                            !986 venture royale 1300

                            Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                            when ya get bucked off, get back on

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                            • #15
                              Pressure

                              There would be a loss of pressure due to more line friction but it would be so small as to be unmeasurable. Large rigid lines would be best without a doubt. Being an air cooled engine I wonder at how much benefit you really get from air passing thru the radiator then over the engine. That would be a triple issue as the air flow would be restricted, somewhat preheated, and the heat from the headers would transfer to the oil lines. I do believe the extra oil would be a benefit.

                              My plans are ceremic coated headers, large rigid lines, finned adapter plate, and a high output DC fan mounted to the radiator. I have the first accomplished and am working on the other 3. I have not decided on SS lines as I believe Aluminum may be better

                              Maybe Fred will chip in as he is an engineer extraordinaire.
                              Last edited by jmnjrpa; 07-10-2010, 07:55 AM.
                              '81 1100 MNS - "Midnight XSpress"
                              Original except:
                              120 mains outer cylinders - 125 mains inner cylinders - Ceramic headers - Powder coated pipes, covers calipers, and MC's
                              4 pods - Air box gutted--E3 Plugs - High Back seat - Grooved out swing arm - SS brake lines
                              Fork brace - 160 speedo - Auto CCT
                              All gold paint and chrome replaced with GOLD plate

                              "STUPID is Forever" Ron White.
                              Contact me by PM -I don't deal with stupid anymore.

                              Big John

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