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    Today I was riding and when I would engage my clutch, the engine would idle really high, let the clutch out in gear to slow the engine down and it returned to normal. It did this about 5 or 6 times, then my clutch cable broke at the throttle end, thought nothing of it, changed it. The same problem is back. When I rev the engine with the clutch cable engaged, it stays at high rev. Any thoughts?
    Some make 'em, most just make payments on 'em!
    1978 XS 1100E
    Vance & Hines Slip on Straight Shot Exhaust
    K & N Air filter
    Home built forward controls
    Vulcan Mustang seat
    A little chopped

    http://s812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Brad_099/

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    Originally posted by Brad View Post
    Today I was riding and when I would engage my clutch, the engine would idle really high, let the clutch out in gear to slow the engine down and it returned to normal. It did this about 5 or 6 times, then my clutch cable broke at the throttle end, thought nothing of it, changed it. The same problem is back. When I rev the engine with the clutch cable engaged, it stays at high rev. Any thoughts?
    Either the carb sync is off or the carb idle mixture is too lean. Setting the idle mixture properly and doing a sync will likely fix it. Of course make sure there are no vacuum leaks as well, but every time I've had a bike that behaved like you describe a good sync coupled with adjusting the idle mixture fixed it.
    Cy

    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
    Vetter Windjammer IV
    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
    OEM Luggage Rack
    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
    Spade Fuse Box
    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
    750 FD Mod
    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
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    • #3
      Check the routing of your throttle cable, might be hanging up or it might need more slack at the handlebar adjustment point.
      2H7 (79) owned since '89
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      • #4
        Yep, carb synch is the no 1 cause, followed closely by no 2 vacuum leaks. Synch should be done either way. You can check for vacuum leaks by spraying carb cleaner or the like around the intake boots or unlit propane torch opened up. Engine idle will jump up if there is a vac leak.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

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        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
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        • #5
          Thanks for the tips

          Thanks for the tips guys, just finished riding since my last post without a repet of the problem. What I did was change the slack adjustment to a few different settings to find a good setting. When there was very little slack and I gave it lots of throttle, seemed to slip, not grab at higher rpm's. I added some slack and the problem was less, I adjusted until the problem went away. So now that I'm very confused and since I'm also quite new to fixing my XS11, can someone please tell me that if having a tight cable can cause this problem or is this a combination of things?
          Some make 'em, most just make payments on 'em!
          1978 XS 1100E
          Vance & Hines Slip on Straight Shot Exhaust
          K & N Air filter
          Home built forward controls
          Vulcan Mustang seat
          A little chopped

          http://s812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Brad_099/

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          • #6
            hi brad,
            yep the cable can definately cause the idle to hang,
            bikerphil had already commented on the throttle
            cable hanging, check the routing and have a small bit
            of free play in the cable.
            pete


            new owner of
            08 gen2 hayabusa


            former owner
            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
            zrx carbs
            18mm float height
            145 main jets
            38 pilots
            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

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            • #7
              Yep, it can, it's a little less often than the other issues, but as you have found it can and does happen. It can also cause it to rev when you turn the bars if it's too tight as well. There do happen to be common items and I would say that the cable being too tight (or dry and sticking) is the third most common cause.
              Cy

              1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
              Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
              Vetter Windjammer IV
              Vetter hard bags & Trunk
              OEM Luggage Rack
              Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
              Spade Fuse Box
              Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
              750 FD Mod
              TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
              XJ1100 Front Footpegs
              XJ1100 Shocks

              I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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              • #8
                Thanks again for the info all, I know that the high rev can happen when the throttle cable hangs, my high revs happend when I was in gear and engaged the clutch side.
                Some make 'em, most just make payments on 'em!
                1978 XS 1100E
                Vance & Hines Slip on Straight Shot Exhaust
                K & N Air filter
                Home built forward controls
                Vulcan Mustang seat
                A little chopped

                http://s812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Brad_099/

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                • #9
                  Hey Brad,

                  The clutch cable has nothing to do with the throttle cable...unless it's routed in a way as to put some pressure or pulling affect on the throttle cable when you put tension on the clutch cable, so check your routing....they cross over the engine under the tank!

                  Aside from your clutch slack adjustment at the handlebar, have you adjusted it at the ENGINE under the round cover on the right side crankcase?? See the tech tips for how to adjust the clutch lever. If the lever is too tight, it can cause the clutch to slip and you will get increased rpms without increased bike speed or velocity, more so in the higher gears!
                  T.C.
                  T. C. Gresham
                  81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                  79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                  History shows again and again,
                  How nature points out the folly of men!

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