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  • mack
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Sep 2009
    • 2411
    • Ontario, Canada

    #1

    Need front m/c

    Need new master cylinder. My reservoir is leaking at the join between plastic and metal base. Help!!!
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
    HERMES
    original owner
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    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
    SPICA
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    78 XS 11E
    IOTA
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  • Ivan
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Jul 2008
    • 2524
    • Hutchinson KS

    #2
    Does the MC have screws in the bottom of it? IIRC the older reservoirs were held in place by a couple screws. You could just pop the reservoir off and replace the oring. The newer style is a snap in fit, and with the age of the plastic, I don't think it would stand up to prying it off for a fix. That being said, if you end up needing a different one, member Andreasweiss usually has some pretty good deals. Also, an aftermarket Nissin with a separate reservoir can be fitted, looks trick, but is pricey.
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    • Crazcnuk
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Aug 2006
      • 2980
      • Hinton, AB, Canada

      #3
      Some were held on by the 4 screws up top (if they are long) and the reservoir was only held in the base by an o-ring.

      You just tilt it over and pull it out.

      I don't think any of the Yamaha stock ones were that way, but Honda and lots of replacement ones were.
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      • DGXSER
        Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
        • Nov 2008
        • 12001
        • Cincinnati, Ohio

        #4
        I have primarily worked on the 81 model Specials. All that I have worked on have had four screws that go through the cover, through the reservior and into the MC body. Using two smaller screw drivers, I have pried the reservior out little by little from one side to the other.
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        • mack
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Sep 2009
          • 2411
          • Ontario, Canada

          #5
          Mc

          Mine is pressed in place and I don't think it has a gasket at the bottom. Four long screws go through the top and down through the plastic or nylon what ever this is. I've cranked on the screws hoping to pull it down tighter but all that did was mess up the lid gasket. Looked at the aftermarket ones, and they suck. Not familiar with the one you mentioned. Got a site?
          mack
          79 XS 1100 SF Special
          HERMES
          original owner
          http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

          81 XS 1100 LH MNS
          SPICA
          http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

          78 XS 11E
          IOTA
          https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
          https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



          Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
          Frankford, Ont, Canada
          613-398-6186

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          • Crazcnuk
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Aug 2006
            • 2980
            • Hinton, AB, Canada

            #6
            Yes, they are pressed together, the bottom of the bowl has an o-ring around the outside of it. You should be able to pry it apart.

            With the age, though, the reservoir is probably brittle. Youhave to pry it up a little, so that you can rotate the reservoir and gently pull up on it while turning.
            Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

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            • crazy steve
              XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
              • Jan 2009
              • 7932
              • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

              #7
              Mack, these are sealed with a o-ring where it goes into the master cylinder body. Take off the cover, etc, then twist while pulling up to get the plastic reservoir off. If it's corroded (and if it's leaking, it is) you'll have to work at this; take your time so you don't damage anything. Remove the o-ring, clean it and it's groove out, and it wouldn't hurt to put some silicon sealer on the reservoir base before reinstalling it. As long as the plastic isn't cracked clean through, that should do it.

              While Yamaha is very unhelpful about replacing the reservoir (not showing this as a replaceable part), I believe the G and H standard is the same, as well as the XS750/850 specials. There may be others that will fit; I know the E and F standards are different and won't work on a special. If yours is cracked to the point it's leaking, let me know; I have a left-over special reservoir you can have for postage. It's pretty badly sun-dried, but didn't leak.

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              • Bullet
                Truly XSive
                • May 2007
                • 185
                • Alliston | Ontario | Canada

                #8
                I bought a new one from Mikexs Canada .. my original OEM was iffy, so rather than risk it, just went the new aftermarket route ..

                If you want to stay with original, you can get the OEM res cap and a rebuilt kit only, the o-ring between the plastic res and the housing was never available as a seperate item anyway.



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                part # 08-0265

                works fine .. lots of pressure, using SS lines and DOT 5 fluid in mine ..

                They ship same day from Ontario using Fedex and it's cheap and fast ..
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                - Mac 4 into 1 exhaust
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                - Mike's progressive rear shocks
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                - 8 mm S.S. Core Plug Wires
                - T.C. fuse box
                - TKat fork brace
                - Geezer regulator
                - Battlax BT45 V-Rated tires
                - 5W40 - Rotella T6 Synth Engine Oil
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                • CatatonicBug
                  Master of XSology
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 6117
                  • Clinton, UT

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bullet
                  I bought a new one from Mikexs Canada .. my original OEM was iffy, so rather than risk it, just went the new aftermarket route ..

                  If you want to stay with original, you can get the OEM res cap and a rebuilt kit only, the o-ring between the plastic res and the housing was never available as a seperate item anyway.



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                  part # 08-0265

                  works fine .. lots of pressure, using SS lines and DOT 5 fluid in mine ..

                  They ship same day from Ontario using Fedex and it's cheap and fast ..
                  I would strongly recommend that one! It's the same design as the LH used (Part #08-255), with a full-metal housing. The reservoir is cast as part of the one-piece MC. No plastic to decay in sunlight.
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                  • Bullet
                    Truly XSive
                    • May 2007
                    • 185
                    • Alliston | Ontario | Canada

                    #10
                    The reservoir is cast as part of the one-piece MC. No plastic to decay in sunlight.
                    Exactly !!

                    It is very similar to the one on my 2007 OEM Honda Sabre.
                    1980 SG - "Blue Balls"

                    Complete Restoration - Finished June 21/2010

                    - 1179 kit
                    - 80/81 carbs 42.5/115 mains with XS pods
                    - Mac 4 into 1 exhaust
                    - Venture auto CCT
                    - progressive fork springs - no air
                    - Mike's progressive rear shocks
                    - Galfer S.S. Brake Lines
                    - XSDirect - Black Coils
                    - 8 mm S.S. Core Plug Wires
                    - T.C. fuse box
                    - TKat fork brace
                    - Geezer regulator
                    - Battlax BT45 V-Rated tires
                    - 5W40 - Rotella T6 Synth Engine Oil
                    - rest of bike is "good old Yamaha"

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                    • mack
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2411
                      • Ontario, Canada

                      #11
                      Rubber boot

                      Does the yamaha rubber boot fit over the lever, plunger mechanism and switch?
                      mack
                      79 XS 1100 SF Special
                      HERMES
                      original owner
                      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                      81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                      SPICA
                      http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                      78 XS 11E
                      IOTA
                      https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                      https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                      Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                      Frankford, Ont, Canada
                      613-398-6186

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                      • Crazcnuk
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2980
                        • Hinton, AB, Canada

                        #12
                        "using SS lines and DOT 5 fluid in mine "

                        How long have you been using DOT 5?

                        The seals in our bikes are not made for silicon based fluids and may fail?
                        Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                        '05 ST1300
                        '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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