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  • Ballast resistor POS bike problem RESOLVED!!

    Problem is now resolved, unbelievably complicated. My cousin Terry came over again, armed with about 3 ft. of wire and a multimeter and proceeded to trace EVERY SINGLE wire on the bike in the ignition circuit.
    We checked every piece of equipment, and it all checked out including primary and secondary coil leads, pickup coil resistance etc etc. He then said "This bike HAS to run, it's got gas and voltage into the coils, which MUST fire or else they are no good." All wires too and from the TCI check out, and so does all the electronics.
    He turned on the key and the bike fired right up. That left us puzzled because after exactly 10 minutes the bike croaked again, and he looked at the multimeter. The voltage dropped from 11.9 to 5 volts on the coils which he said was not supposed to happen. He then backtracked through everything and isolated the resistor, the diode connections in the TCI ( by way of the connections to the starter solenoid), declared it all good.
    We know this is heat related he said, so we'll check everything again while it's all hot. After checking all the TCI connections again while hot, he found one of the pickup coils was now open. That's odd, it checked fine while cold. So using some electronic cleaner which is alcohol based, I sprayed the crap out of the pickup coil and blew on it, which really cooled it off. As Terry watched the multimeter, it flickered and went from open to .760 resistance which is what it's supposed to read. Ah ha!!!! Found it!!!

    So thanks to all who made suggestions about using a cooling spray to isolate electronic parts, and those who kept saying check the pickup coils, I would like to say thanks. We did check the pickup coils numerous times while it was cold, and they checked out good, but we never did when it was hot. So now I will be phoning Sid to see if he has a spare pickup coil, because it is the actual coil intself (windings inside) NOT the connections, they were good.

    So now I won't call it a POS anymore, I'll just call it a stubborn sneaky devious black bas**rd instead.

    Courtney
    Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

  • #2
    Rats, and I was just about ready to take the canopy off my truck so I could drive it down to the Island to help you out of your misery...
    Ken Talbot

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    • #3
      CONGRATULATIONS Courtney on sticking with the problem to the end. It helps all of us watching someone figure out an elusive problem. It is also frustrating that we can be there to physically help.
      I had a very sinking feeling when I'd replaced my coils (certain that was the problem), fired the bike up, and still had 2 dead cylinders.
      These elusive problems are what bind us to these old bikes. After putting that much time and effort into it you CAN'T EVER get rid of it.
      Pat Kelly
      <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

      1978 XS1100E (The Force)
      1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
      2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
      1999 Suburban (The Ship)
      1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
      1968 F100 (Valentine)

      "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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      • #4
        Sorry to disappoint you Ken. :-) NOT!! However you can still come to the island anytime and visit. I would visit you, but I am allergic to wood smoke, (not funny really is it?) and you guys are surrounded by big fires.

        Thanks for the kind words Pat, you are right of course, these bikes get in your blood, where else can you get as much fun year after year for such a low initial investment. Now I just have to find a new pickup coil and double check that that is what it really was.
        Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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        • #5
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2429299323

          I've bought from him before. Has been a good seller to me.
          Last edited by Pat Kelly; 08-25-2003, 12:27 AM.
          Pat Kelly
          <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

          1978 XS1100E (The Force)
          1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
          2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
          1999 Suburban (The Ship)
          1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
          1968 F100 (Valentine)

          "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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          • #6
            Courtney, they are also available brand new. A friend of mine just picked up a set here in Windsor. Can't remember what he said he paid for them, but I think it was around $150Cdn.
            Brian
            1978E Midlife Crisis - A work in progress
            1984 Kawasaki 550 Ltd - Gone, but not forgotten

            A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people
            remembering the same thing!

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            • #7
              Good for you, fellow stubborn fool!

              Why not go to the aftermarket like Accel's?
              Marty in NW PA
              Gone - 1978E - one of the first XS11 made
              Gone - 2007A FJR - the only year of Dark Red Metallic
              This IS my happy face.

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              • #8
                Yamaha's got em for less than $100. They changed the design a bit too with longer wires. I had a similar problem with my LG ...no problems since the change.
                XS 1100 LG

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                • #9
                  Glad you stuck with it Courtney!
                  Way to go
                  '79 Special

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                  • #10
                    Atta boy for sticking it out!! Old bikes can be a real pain sometimes. I will usually just walk away from it for awhile and check out prices for new bikes. That will usually calm me down enough to start over again. XS11's have a following, you can ride one in a rally and usually not see another one. Those that know em will gravitate toward you and scope out your rig with comments like, "I used to have one of those", "those things go like a bat out of hell" or the most common, "usta have one of those, crashed it bad at 120mph (or 130 or 140)". I rode my first XS in 1978 while my 1000 Jota was in the shop waiting for parts. I promised myself them I would have one. Now I have two, I love and hate em at the same time.
                    When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

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