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  • Ok, hopefully not a big deal (flashers)

    My flasher unit thing-a-ma-bob runs my turn signals but, wont work my hazards?

    I went to the auto store to buy a new one but, when installed my turn signals or hazards would not work. Placed the old flasher back in and turn signals came on again but, still no hazards.

    Could it be the flasher? maybe its in the control box.
    1980 XS1100 SG

    When in doubt, knock 'em out!

    I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

  • #2
    I would focus on the 4-way switch first. The wires that lead into that switch are notorious for having lose/broken solder connections. Have you used a multimeter to check on the power flowing to the flasher unit? If its not getting power, the switch is at fault.
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    • #3
      Hey SuckerPunch,

      The ER flashers use a separate flasher unit, not the turn signal flasher. It's under the seat, just above the battery, a regular thermal round type, 2 prong. But you'll want to test things before spending $$!!
      T.C.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
        Hey SuckerPunch,

        The ER flashers use a separate flasher unit, not the turn signal flasher. It's under the seat, just above the battery, a regular thermal round type, 2 prong. But you'll want to test things before spending $$!!
        T.C.
        Hi Suckerpunch.
        Like TC says seperate flasher. 2 prong. Cheap I paid $2.99
        If your signature had your bike model we could answer more specificly: such as on the standard the flasher for 4 way is attached to the frame on the left side just behind the tank mounting bolt.
        Phil
        Last edited by MaximPhil; 05-18-2010, 10:00 PM.
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        • #5
          will have to get to that too

          Thanks TC, I have the same problem, will check that out soon.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
            Hey SuckerPunch,

            The ER flashers use a separate flasher unit, not the turn signal flasher. It's under the seat, just above the battery, a regular thermal round type, 2 prong. But you'll want to test things before spending $$!!
            T.C.
            oh, sweet thanks. I was confused because the fuse panel had a fuse for the turn signals. This made me think if the fuse was good and the turn signals worked and the hazards did not, it would be what I thought was the flasher unit. That is where I got confused.

            I have a good understanding now.
            1980 XS1100 SG

            When in doubt, knock 'em out!

            I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MaximPhil View Post
              Hi Suckerpunch.
              Like TC says seperate flasher. 2 prong. Cheap I paid $2.99
              If your signature had your bike model we could answer more specificly: such as on the standard the flasher for 4 way is attached to the frame on the left side just behind the tank mounting bolt.
              Phil
              I keep forgetting to ad this info on almost every post. Ill make that update to save us all the trouble. Thanks
              1980 XS1100 SG

              When in doubt, knock 'em out!

              I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

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              • #8
                I dp agree that every bike I have worked on that has hazard switch has had a broken solder connection inside the switch. It can be a PITA to get it soldered back into place due to the small space the assy goes into when your done though. But then, soldering is not my best skill.
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Suckerpunch View Post
                  I was confused because the fuse panel had a fuse for the turn signals.
                  Be very careful if you work on the flasher connections in the switch. The 4-way flasher is not fused except for the 30A Main fuse and it's still hot when the ignition is off so you can use the flashers without leaving the key in the ignition.

                  Disconnect the battery or push down and release the ignition key, then turn it almost all the way counterclockwise but not all the way to 'Park' to turn off the flashers before you fire up the soldering iron. It's safer to disconnect the battery whenever you do any electrical repairs.
                  -- Scott
                  _____

                  2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
                    Be very careful if you work on the flasher connections in the switch. The 4-way flasher is not fused except for the 30A Main fuse and it's still hot when the ignition is off so you can use the flashers without leaving the key in the ignition.

                    Disconnect the battery or push down and release the ignition key, then turn it almost all the way counterclockwise but not all the way to 'Park' to turn off the flashers before you fire up the soldering iron. It's safer to disconnect the battery whenever you do any electrical repairs.
                    Scott, I bow to your skills oh masterful one!!! I would never have concieved of working on the switch on the bike. Heck, I barely can get it to work on my workbench with one of those helping hands thingies!

                    Not sure bout the earlier models or when they added the Hazard switch, but on the SH model if you pull the gas tank off, it is really easy to pull the two connectors loose and pull the wires and all with the switch off the bike.
                    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                    Previously owned
                    93 GSX600F
                    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                    81 XS1100 Special
                    81 CB750 C
                    80 CB750 C
                    78 XS750

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                      ... I barely can get it to work on my workbench with one of those helping hands thingies!
                      <smacks forehead> That's what I was doing wrong.... </sf> There's no $DEITY in my profile anywhere so when the turn signals jammed with dirt after 30 years and the switch wouldn't work I took it apart like any normal mortal so I wouldn't run into something while I was staring at the switch instead of signaling. Of course the whole switch was packed with 30 years of dirt and half the wires broke off after the tiny return spring sproinged off to the corner of the garage with all the yard tools where it took half an hour to find.

                      I'll give you three guesses how I found out about the live wire and the Main fuse and the first two don't count (That's odd, the switch seems to work but there are no flashers and the bike won't start...).
                      -- Scott
                      _____

                      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                      1979 XS1100F: parts
                      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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