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This morning I adjusted the cam chain and advanced the timing a bit. It made one heck of a difference!! But the cam chain adj. is leaking oil. Can you still get the gasket for this, or should I just use permatex? there's no gasket there at all. now I took it out (it was in 3 pieces) and hi tacked it, to get it home. Anyway I am hearing ticking in the topend. Is this an easy adjustment to do?
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umm...did I read that correctly that you ran the bike without the cam chain adjuster in place?? That could have been VERY detrimental to the life of your valves.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
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80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
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81 CB750 C
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No, I didnt run it w/o cam tensioner.'79 XS 1100FComment
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Sorry, I get ahead of myself when typing,
I adjusted the tensioner, adv. timing. and then took it for a spin. The ticking has always been there, I am getting a clymers manual from Amazon, but until it comes, is adjusting the valves a fairly straight forward op.?
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You will have to define what you mean by "fairly straight up." The valves gaps on an XS11 are adjusted by replacing the shims in the valve bucket. These are 29mm disks that come in various thicknesses. You measure the valve gap and then replace the shim with either a thicker one or a thinner one to reach the desired gap. You cannot change the valve gap without replacement shims and you will not know what shims you need until you measure the gap and then pull the shim to find out what thickness is already in there.
You could start by pulling the valve cover and measuring the valve gaps. If they are not in spec, pull the offending shim and find out what thickness it is. Members maintain a shim library to switch out shims for those who meed them.
BTW, the easiest way I have found to replace the shims is to pull the cam shafts after you measure the gaps. You might get real lucky and just need to move some shims around to get back into spec.
PatrickThe glorious rays of the rising sun exist only to create shadows in which doom may hide.
XS11F (Incubus, daily rider)
1969 Yamaha DT1B
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Sorry, dont mean to hyjack your thread but I figured this question might help you out. I am getting ready to check valve clearance as well, and figured I will need to replace/swap some shims too. I read somewhere, someone using zipties to keep the spring compressed...can anyone confirm this or give a good explination on how to do it?
I have some good beefy zipties I would sacrifice to do this with I just want to make sure I do it correct... Thanks
'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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There is no way to squeeze and ziptie the spring. The spring sits on top of the valve just like auto system with keepers over the washer that sit in a groove in the valve stem. The bucket sits down over the valve top and spring hiding the spring from view, and the shim sits in a divet in top of the bucket.
There is another thread on this form today or yesterday with the procedure written up.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.
81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection
Previously owned
93 GSX600F
80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
81 XS1100 Special
81 CB750 C
80 CB750 C
78 XS750Comment
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zipties?
zipties ? 
Somebody be pulling your leg.
I use a shim tool from motion pro.
mroComment
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Make a gasket for the chain adjuster. Takes some gasket material, a scissors or exacto knife, a common hole puncher and about five minutes. you can make a multitude of gaskets for your machine with these.
Adjusting valve lash, some guys use the adjuster tool and others pull the cams to make the adjustments. I prefer to pull the cams but, that is just a preference.
For a street bike it is common to adjust to the center of the recommended tolerance range. I do it like this. 1. measure the clearance with feeler gauges. 2. subtract the specified celarance. 3. add this to the existing shim number for the new shim munber. You might have to round off to the nearest shim since they come in increments of .005mm. The number on the shim is the total thickness in mm.
One thing to remember, place the shim back on top of the bucket with the numbers facing down or they will be worn off by the cam lobe and you won't know whats there next time.
Also, keep a journal of what you do (really everything you do) so next time you measure things out you will know the existing shims. This will allow you the possibility of just shifting a few around instead of maybe having to buy a bunch of new shims. But then, you cannot know this until you pull the cams the first time or at least pop each shim out with an adjuster to record it.
Its not hard, just take your time and think about what you do before you do it.Mike Giroir
79 XS-1100 Special
Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.Comment
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I swear I read something about using zipties to keep the spring compressed...Originally posted by mro View Postzipties ?
Somebody be pulling your leg.
I use a shim tool from motion pro.
mro Must be I was dreaming...
'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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Craig - if you can get the bike over here by King's Island, I'd be happy to adjust your clearances for you. Probably get a colortune and sync in too. The SWOXS group gets together a lot on Sundays when the weather is nice for maintenance and general yukking it up. You're welcome to join the fun.I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.
'79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake linesComment
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That'd be cool...Thanks.'79 XS 1100FComment
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