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  • Hawkwood
    New
    • May 2010
    • 3
    • Edmonton, Canada

    #1

    Rear brake caliper assembly misaligned...

    Hey all,

    I'm new to the forum, and just bought my first 79 XS11F last week.

    I have an issue that probably has a pretty simply fix, but I am *very* green when it comes to motorcycle maintenance, so go easy on me.

    The issue I have is the rear brake caliper assembly is misaligned and was wondering how I can fix that:



    The guy I bought it from didn't know how long it's been like that, so I'll probably want to check the pads and there is some pulsing, so possibly a warped rotor as well?

    Thanks in advance for any advice!


    And of course, here's an obligatory pic of my XS11:

  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #2
    Welcome; another fine looking Standard! (I'm partial to those, y'know...).

    I guess the first question, does it drag on the rotor? If not, I wouldn't worry about it as this this bracket doesn't move with braking/pad wear. If it does, you may have some mis-matched parts; do you still have the 17" rear wheel? A pic of the 'parts stack' at the axle would be helpful to determine that, but you could just put a washer behind the bracket between the it and the wheel.

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    • DGXSER
      Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
      • Nov 2008
      • 12001
      • Cincinnati, Ohio

      #3
      I'd start by hcecking pad wear. It looks like possibly the brake caliperis stuck putting pressure against the pad and may have worn that one pad down and not the other as much. May need the caliper cleaned out and such, not a big issue or a big job really. Just a bit of work and often no new parts except pads.
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      • mack
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Sep 2009
        • 2411
        • Ontario, Canada

        #4
        alignment

        What's your order of things at your rear axle starting from right to left as you look at your back tire? Do you have a manual yet?
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        • bikerphil
          Master of XSology
          • Jan 2008
          • 8635
          • South Flori-DUH

          #5
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          • crazy steve
            XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
            • Jan 2009
            • 7932
            • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

            #6
            You know, after looking at that closer, I wonder if he has one of those 'oddball' rotors like I ran into. These have a .050" deeper 'dish', and that looks like about the amount he's off...

            '78E original owner
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • tinman905
              XSive Maximus
              • Aug 2007
              • 946
              • Orangeville,Ontario ,Canada

              #7
              It looks like the pad that sits on the piston is not there either
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              Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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              • Hawkwood
                New
                • May 2010
                • 3
                • Edmonton, Canada

                #8
                Thanks for the advice so far. Here's a couple more pics from a wider angle:






                There is some drag, it spins free for about 3/5ths of the full way around on then drags to a quick stop.

                I also do have a Clymer.
                Last edited by Hawkwood; 05-12-2010, 08:44 PM.

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                • tinman905
                  XSive Maximus
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 946
                  • Orangeville,Ontario ,Canada

                  #9
                  Looks like you're missing the collar #4 that sits between the wheel and the caliper bracket.
                  BDF Special
                  80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
                  Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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                  • crazy steve
                    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 7932
                    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                    #10
                    It looks to me like you have the two spacers in there back-asswards. That outer spacer looks very much like what the inner should be, and while the inner one isn't very visible, what little I can see makes me think it's the outer spacer. The 'correct' outer spacer has a 'big' diameter and a 'small' diameter separated with a 'u'-shaped groove. It may also have a lip on the 'big' side that fits into a matching groove on the outside of the caliper mount. I'd be willing to wager a small sum that if you pull the wheel, that's what you'll find.

                    As to the amount of 'drag', that's normal. Remember, when you spin that wheel you're also turning a bunch of gears...

                    '78E original owner
                    Last edited by crazy steve; 05-12-2010, 09:24 PM.
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                    • b.walker5
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1745
                      • Invercargill, New Zealand

                      #11
                      According to benefiscal the inner spacer should look like this



                      and the outer spacer should look like this



                      and it thats correct then mine is backwards as well, and my rear caliper looks exactly the same as the first photo. I've often thought that it wasnt centered that well but never worried about it as it never caused a problem.
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                      • Hawkwood
                        New
                        • May 2010
                        • 3
                        • Edmonton, Canada

                        #12
                        Thanks for the advice all. I'll take a closer look at the spacers and try to get them sorted.

                        My primary concern is that there is considerable pulsing when using the rear brake.

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                        • bikerphil
                          Master of XSology
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 8635
                          • South Flori-DUH

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hawkwood
                          My primary concern is that there is considerable pulsing when using the rear brake.
                          Sounds like a warped rotor to me. All years on the rear rotors are the same, Standard and Special. Some are slotted, some are not. Both will fit your bike.
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                          • ikeholt40
                            XSive
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 17

                            #14
                            did anyone ever come up with a fix for this. I have the same problem, after new rear tire replacement done by bike shop
                            jb

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                            • ikeholt40
                              XSive
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 17

                              #15
                              bump

                              I have a 79 1100 special. There is no spacer between the tork bracket and the caliper bracket. Is this right? What spacer #4 is the other post refering to?
                              jb

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