I think I am done..

[Rettic]

I think I am done with this bike. Since I bought it last year it has been nothing but grief. It will not run right. I got it tuned and running good enough to take to work a month ago. Then as I am just getting off the interstate, after not being able to get it to rev above 5500, which is normal, it starts to rev high. Ok, sure just the sync that is off. get it home after riding the brakes and wishing they were better, I kill it. I wait a few minutes, so I crank it again. It high revs right back up. First thing I do is check the throttle cable. Free moving and with released slightly slack like it should be. Ok... so it must be the sync. Well since I need to do that any how I will check the floats. They are all the same height based on a WET check. Right at the float bowl washers. I decided to move the float needle to see it that changed anything. Didn't seem to make any difference. Ok.

So just a few minutes ago. Got the carbs back on. I set the timing mark to C and pop off the valve cover, I have a leaking cam tensioner, needed to fix that. Ok, get that fixed put it back in. Turn the engine BY HAND to make sure I didn't screw anything up. Timing looks good on both cams. Next start her up. Pull choke, hit the start. Cool starts right up. Then it starts to climb. Not even warm yet. So I kill it, take the choke in a notch, won't even start. finally get it to not rev up fast, sync a little with it cold, I know not best idea, but had to get the throttle in control. Get it to idle with 1/2 choke, sweet, check sync again not that it is warm. Cool, take it off choke... dies. Ok fine turn the idle screw in a little get it to run, at 2k rpm. try to get it close to sync revs. Can't get a vacuum to read. I pulled the mixture screws out a bit and then back in a bit to see if that helps. nadda.

I am so tired of this.

I just want to ride and have a bike that runs without having to fight with this. I would love it someone could could come down/up/over and help me out with this before I sell it for what I bought it for and loose the grand I have put in it. So if anyone is near the Charlotte area that can help get this thing running for a case of beer and what ever food they want (besides fillet and lobster tails) Please come help me out. Thanks.

[slow mo]

hi rettic

is there any members in this man,s area that might help out? i know the feeling of what can i do next ,,i asked for help and luckily i got it,hang in there,,ride safe ,,slow mo!

[XSokieSPECIAL]

Hang in there Rettic......

It'll be worth it.

TC is fairly close, maybe he knows someone who can come help you out.

[TopCatGr58]

Well, I'm not FAIRLY close, several hundred miles to be exact!

I know The Wiz is now in NORTH CAROLINA, but can't remember exactly where/what city, and I don't want to speak for him, but he seems like a nice enough fellow....you might try to send him a PM, as well as look him up to see where he's at in NC!? I don't know if many folks have used the THREADS I posted/made for all of the states to post folk's whereabouts, do a search for North Carolina, and you'll find the thread to look thru. I think there was a FRAPPER MAP or such that folks put their info into, might check that out also!?

T.C.

[DGXSER]

Carbs are a good place to keep looking. When I first fired up my project bike, it did a very similar thing. Started on full choke and quickly warmed up and climbed in RPM up to 5k or so. I then turned the idle down and rode it a mile or two to warm it up and it was again climbing up to about 3-4k. So I set it back down.

But then it hardly would start. So I pulled the carbs back off and took a wire form a wire brush through the jets/holes in the carb bowls and got those good and clean. Sinc ehten it starts decent on the choke and idles nice when warmed up.

[thewiz]

I am all over this one ...

At first I though it was one from my past ... lol. I have read most of his posts from the last year to bring me up to speed earlier tonight and have PM'd him. We'll get it.

[Bigge_al]

Wish I new anything to help

I live in G'boro north of you.

[jmnjrpa]

Further

Proof that dispite any opinion differences this club has a LOT of good caring people in it! Way to go Wiz!!!

[tinman905]

Proof that dispite any opinion differences this club has a LOT of good caring people in it! Way to go Wiz!!!

Gota love it that's what the main reason for the site is . I met some good people helping and being helped out .Way to go Wiz!!!!

[Rettic]

Thanks!

Wow, what a great response. I should have expected it, but stress blocks that. I am very thankful for the responses. We will see what happens next. Thanks all. I am very impressed by the amount of help on this site.

[DGXSER]

Trust me..BTDT before. Every one here has hit the point of frustration before. Carbs on these bikes can certainly take anyone there when they are misbehaving. And several other items can also contribute.

Point being, we all have been down this path at some point. Keep working and asking and sleeping on it for a night or so and you will eventually get there.

[XSokieSPECIAL]

Well, I'm not FAIRLY close, several hundred miles to be exact! T.C.

I meant in the same REGION TC. A lot closer than me or anyone I know. (BTW how many miles in a several?)

We'll get it.

You da man wiz!

(Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain) sorry.....can't help it. LOL

[TopCatGr58]

Hey Wiz,

Thanks, that's awesome of you! And it will also be awesome after you post another 3 posts! Several great folks getting ready to hit that GURU status soon, and most deservedly as well!!

T.C.

[MaximPhil]

Thanks to TheWiz. Remember you need not just a member in the vicinity but one with the skills to solve the problem. I am close to lots of people but pretty much useless beyond Gophering the Beer
Hey Rettic,
I have just received the following from my Guru ( Big Daddy Funk)
"These bikes always seem to take their own sweet time to straighten out. Patience is a necessary virtue when dealing with any thoroughbred."

Hope yours gets sorted soon
Phil

[tadtl1]

what its worth

Hi Rettic,

For what its worth, I could have written the same thing six weeks ago. You may want to try moving the steering around to be absolutely sure that in any position the throttle cable isnt being hung up or whatever.

I was trying to live with mostly cleaned carbs, and old carb parts. Kits from georgefix and a thorough triple cleaning with the yammi stuff,, and a precise assembly ,, and serious bench synch set me up perfect.

I did have trouble with trying to vac synch the carbs until I found out the one of my vac gauges was giving spurious readings. I can still feel my chagrin when I discovered that after puzzling over it for more than an hour.

I also found that I was getting cable interference from two different things, one was, a misplaced clamp outcropping, and the other was an aftermarket oil cooler line occassionally rubbing on the cable setup. Getting the throttle cable lubed also proved a wonderful improvement.

I never did find my lost honda four vac gauges,, and decided to do away with the up to now hopeless vac tubes contraption,, and just decided to rely only on the bench synch. It runs wonderfully for now, I took Todds advice to run three tankfuls thru it first before doing a vac synch. So far so good, but will do a serious precise synch very soon.