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  • Courtney
    XSive Maximus
    • Jul 2002
    • 542
    • Nanaimo BC Canada

    #1

    Reading results of my multimeter???

    OK, either I can't read this properly cause I'm a 'tard, or else my ballast resisitor is toasted. The top of the resisitor is stamped
    1.6 (ohm symbol) K, which to me means 1600 ohms correct???
    I set my digital multimeter to 2K ohms and the reading I get is
    .003 which to me means 3 ohms???? This is with the ballast resistor unplugged and measuring across it's two wires. The book says I should get 1.6K ohms plus or minus 10%. Am I stupid or what????
    Thanks,
    Courtney
    Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.
  • Geezer
    XS-XJ Guru
    • May 2003
    • 2985
    • Willamina, Oregon 97229

    #2
    It could be toast but you should select the scale that has the value you expect to test in the middle of the range for best accuracy.

    Geezer
    Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

    The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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    • TheDjost
      Truly XSive
      • Jul 2003
      • 153
      • Montreal, Qc

      #3
      most probably

      If you test the resistor on the 2kohms scale and get 0.003, your ballast resistor has probably gone short, but just to make sure, go down to 20ohm scale, or even the 2ohm. If it's toast, then you will get a readabe value. Keep in mind that in non-auto-range multimeters, your readings should stay over 0.5 for best accuracy. I.E.: fi you are testing at 2k and get below 0.5 , you should go down a couple of ranges until you read over 0.5. Also make sure the battery in the meter is good.


      But it does sound as if it's shot.

      Another tip when buying electronic parts is to bring a meter with you and test the part right there on the counter before you buy it. Most stores have a no-return policy on all electronic parts. It also gives you a chance to compare the readings with the bad part.

      -Justin

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      • strom
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Jul 2002
        • 1577
        • Slovenia, EU

        #4
        Check the previous ballast resistor topic... I think its a low impedance 10W resistor... low as in a few ohms, nothing in the k scale.

        LP
        If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
        (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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        • xssiveone
          XSive Maximus
          • Jul 2002
          • 766
          • Windsor,Ontario,Canada

          #5
          Factory manual sez it's 1.6ohm, =- 10% @ 20C
          Brian
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          • Bud Manley
            XStremely XSive
            • May 2003
            • 414
            • Clayton, Michigan

            #6
            you sure the circuit is proken at the other end?
            What I mean is that are you reading across the resistor or backwards through the rest of the circuit. I have seen resistors go bad before but it is a rare event. (I'm an Electrical engineer)
            Sounds to me like its reading the frame or the ohms a bad ground would give you.
            remove the resister from the bike then measure
            you'll know for sure

            GL
            79 XS1100F "JINGUS"
            07 V-star 1100
            Do you want it done right or do you want me to do it?

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            • Courtney
              XSive Maximus
              • Jul 2002
              • 542
              • Nanaimo BC Canada

              #7
              The resistor was removed from the bike. The big clue that I'm hoping makes the resistor the culprit is that the ignition cuts out after about 10 minutes, yet everything else works fine. The resistor drops the voltage to the coils AFTER about 10 minutes, so if it is failing then after 10 minutes the coil power would be cut off. That's the thought right now anyway. I'd appreciate any other ideas as every other electrical piece has been checked with my multimeter and tests fine.
              Court
              Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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              • nashville_bill
                XSive Maximus
                • Jul 2002
                • 605
                • Nashville, TN

                #8
                It is my understanding that the resistor is part of the circuit at all times after the bike has started and used only for starting the motor to give more voltage at that time.
                Bill Murrin
                Nashville, TN
                1981 XS1100SH "Kick in the Ass"
                1981 XS650SH "Numb in the Ass"
                2005 DL1000 V-Strom "WOW"
                2005 FJR1300 Newest ride
                1993 ST1100 "For Sale $2,700" (Sold)
                2005 Ninja 250 For Sale $2,000 1100 miles

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                • nashville_bill
                  XSive Maximus
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 605
                  • Nashville, TN

                  #9
                  Quote from Shop Manual

                  Quote from manual:

                  "The TCI unit incorporates a bypass circuit to bypass the primary coil ballast resistor when the starter is activated, allowing voltage (unresisted) to operate the coils. This provides easier cold starting."
                  Bill Murrin
                  Nashville, TN
                  1981 XS1100SH "Kick in the Ass"
                  1981 XS650SH "Numb in the Ass"
                  2005 DL1000 V-Strom "WOW"
                  2005 FJR1300 Newest ride
                  1993 ST1100 "For Sale $2,700" (Sold)
                  2005 Ninja 250 For Sale $2,000 1100 miles

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                  • Courtney
                    XSive Maximus
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 542
                    • Nanaimo BC Canada

                    #10
                    That's right Bill, so what the heck is killing my ignition circuit completely after 10 minutes???? No way both coils can die together at the same time. Could I just put a 1.6 ohm resistor in place of the one on the bike now to check this? One from Radio Shack maybe??? What amperage would it have to be able to take? Am I lost? Should I buy a Valkerie and ride off into the sunset? Stay tuned folks, we'll be right back, but first, here's a word from our sponsor.
                    Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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                    • MartyA
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2148
                      • NW PA

                      #11
                      Court prolly doesn't help much, but I read my ballast and it was 2.3 ohms. Bike runs fine.
                      Marty in NW PA
                      Gone - 1978E - one of the first XS11 made
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                      • Courtney
                        XSive Maximus
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 542
                        • Nanaimo BC Canada

                        #12
                        Well thanks for taking the time to test it, that is appreciated!!
                        Court
                        Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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                        • TopCatGr58
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 12650
                          • Portsmouth, Va.

                          #13
                          Still possibly bad resistor!

                          Hey there Court,

                          Even though you're getting a good reading, cold, after the bike has run for those 10 or so minutes, the resistor could/should build up heat due to it's slowing down of the current thru it, dropping the voltage from 12 to 9 volts, and so "if" the resistor is cracked, then when it heats up enough and expands, it can then completely separate thereby creating a complete SHORT or broken circuit cutting off the coils!? Run the bike till it dies, then test the resistor.....if you get infinity resistance, or O.O, whatever your meter shows when there is not a complete circuit, then you will have proven the resistor bad for sure!!!

                          This make sense Bud!??

                          T.C.
                          T. C. Gresham
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                          • nashville_bill
                            XSive Maximus
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 605
                            • Nashville, TN

                            #14
                            I think that if your meter reads "0.0" then there is no resistance, i.e. shorted, as if you had touched the meter leeds together.
                            Bill Murrin
                            Nashville, TN
                            1981 XS1100SH "Kick in the Ass"
                            1981 XS650SH "Numb in the Ass"
                            2005 DL1000 V-Strom "WOW"
                            2005 FJR1300 Newest ride
                            1993 ST1100 "For Sale $2,700" (Sold)
                            2005 Ninja 250 For Sale $2,000 1100 miles

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                            • Courtney
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 542
                              • Nanaimo BC Canada

                              #15
                              That makes perfect sense T.C. !! Thanks for the input!
                              Court
                              Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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