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    So I sold my xj and the new owner is saying he is experancing slipping in 1 st gear . I had not noticed that when I had the bike, although I would shift out of 1st rather quickly. Any thoughts?
    What you need to do is be thankful for the life you got. Stop looking at what you dont have and start being thankful for what you do have.



    82 XJ 1100

  • #2
    Thoughts lIke what? Good thing you sold it?
    Is it the clutch sipping in first or is it a gear jumping?
    "If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein

    "Illegitimi non carborundum"-Joseph W. "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell



    1980 LG
    1981 LH

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    • #3
      I'm the new owner. Thanks for starting the post...

      When I take off in first, if I ease into it, there is no issue. However, if I punch it (not going flat out or anything extreme, just a quick acceleration) it slips for a split second. After the slip, it continues to accelerate and I put it into 2nd with no problems.

      FYI...I say slip because that is what it feels like. I am not overly mechanical, so I hope I am using the right word. It's like it is out of gear for a split second, causing the bike to jump back a little.

      Thoughts?

      Jason.
      '82 XJ1100

      Jason

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dpotter58 View Post
        Is it the clutch sipping in first or is it a gear jumping?
        Not sure. From what I described, does it sound like one or the other?
        '82 XJ1100

        Jason

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        • #5
          Sounds like the clutch slipping. Do you know how to adjust it? Do you know what kind of oil was used at the last change?
          If its like the XS clutch you can adjust it pretty easy, Thats a good start.
          "If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein

          "Illegitimi non carborundum"-Joseph W. "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell



          1980 LG
          1981 LH

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          • #6
            Does it make a noise when it does this or does the rpm increase without
            a heavy rattling sound?
            If it makes a battering noise than it is probably the gear problem.
            If it doesn't make a noise or you don't feel it "skipping" then it is possibly the clutch slipping.
            80 SG XS1100
            14 Victory Cross Country

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            • #7
              Wow that was a crappy thing to say about selling it. I just dropped the oil out after reading the post about synthetic oil causing slippage. The shop use motoul. I just put in castrol 4t motorcycle specific 4 stroke 20/50 oil
              What you need to do is be thankful for the life you got. Stop looking at what you dont have and start being thankful for what you do have.



              82 XJ 1100

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              • #8
                I did not notice any sound associated with it. I will listen for it next time. Looks like the comments are leaning towards it being the clutch, and no...I don't know how to adjust it. ...And thus begins my foray into working on my new XJ. I will do some research on the forum and see what I can find on clutch adjustment.
                '82 XJ1100

                Jason

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                • #9
                  If the gears are in need of repair, it would sound like a machine gun between your feet. The clutch does it's job using pure friction, so if it is slipping, you will not hear anything but the engine revving, while NOT feeling the normal accelleration associated with it. It will usualy increase the friction as the slipping subsides, and you'll either ease forward, or make a quick lurch while the RPMs drop.

                  If the previous use of synthetic oil is the cause of clutch slippage, a single oil change may not be enough to remove the effects. The friction plates soak up the oil, and it can take a while to "flush" out the slipperyness.
                  1980 XS850SG - Sold
                  1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                  Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                  Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                  Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                  -H. Ford

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tbcfreerider View Post
                    Wow that was a crappy thing to say about selling it. I just dropped the oil out after reading the post about synthetic oil causing slippage. The shop use motoul. I just put in castrol 4t motorcycle specific 4 stroke 20/50 oil
                    Bad joke on my part... sorry

                    Originally posted by gringojason View Post
                    I did not notice any sound associated with it. I will listen for it next time. Looks like the comments are leaning towards it being the clutch, and no...I don't know how to adjust it. ...And thus begins my foray into working on my new XJ. I will do some research on the forum and see what I can find on clutch adjustment.
                    look under engine maintenance for some clutch info

                    http://www.xs11.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31
                    "If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein

                    "Illegitimi non carborundum"-Joseph W. "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell



                    1980 LG
                    1981 LH

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                    • #11
                      If indeed it is just clutch slipping then I would start with a proper adjustment. If that doesnt fix it you could ride it easy till the next oil change and then run some seafoam in the oil at idle before you change it (do not ride around with it in!). Maybe it will get the clutch plates to clean up (engage the clutch a few time while its idling in neutral and make sure you let it drain all out) then refill it and go for a ride. Assuming no clutch work has been done to it, your probably due for some friction plates or springs at a minimum.
                      '79 XS11 F
                      Stock except K&N

                      '79 XS11 SF
                      Stock, no title.

                      '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                      GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                      "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                      • #12
                        Unfortunately, slipping clutches is definitely one of the weak areas on these bikes. Check the maintenance and modification areas of the site for info on how to tackle this issue. Of course, that is assuming the oil change and clutch adjustment doesn't do the trick for you!

                        Speaking of which, I need to adjust my clutch... I noticed it slipping on top in third gear and was planning on buying an extra steel for it, but this reminds me I haven't adjusted it in a LONG time...
                        -- Clint
                        1979 XS1100F - bought for $500 in 1989

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                        • #13
                          No "magic" adding sea-foam to the oil......would NOT do it! Make a proper MECHANICAL adjustment or repair!
                          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by motoman View Post
                            No "magic" adding sea-foam to the oil......would NOT do it! Make a proper MECHANICAL adjustment or repair!
                            You dont recommend it but others may. Im not saying it magic or you shouldnt first try and adjustment. Im just saying its a way to "wash" out the friction modifiers in a way...

                            Heres some statistics on what others did to fix their clutch slip, also lists the different methods.
                            Last edited by WMarshy; 04-11-2010, 11:55 PM.
                            '79 XS11 F
                            Stock except K&N

                            '79 XS11 SF
                            Stock, no title.

                            '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                            GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                            "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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