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    Just got back from the test run with the new XJ shocks that came in the mail yesterday (new to me and brutus that is). All I can say is WOW! What a nice ride. Smooth as butter. I didn't find them to be any taller than the stock shocks (checked them against the originals, exact same length), and if anything they sit very slightly lower than the originals under just the weight of the bike, but the stance seems about the same.

    Only one quick question from you XJ guys, what are the air pressure specs for these? Normal pressure and max are what I'm interested in. I'm assuming that the max is at least the same as the forks (30 psi) and I'm trying out 28 psi next (I'm a big guy) after trying out 12 psi at first. 12 psi I find scrapes a little early for me, so I'm trying a little higher.

    I figure I'll change the oil in them later, for now I'm running what came in them. I put them upside down for 8 hours and then back rightside up overnight before I installed them, so I hope the oil levels are even. But I'll say, I'm liking how it rides with them on. Took about an hour to install them, which included having the slightly clearance the right side shock to get the lower bolt in. Other than that it went smooth, I just flipped them around to avoid the helmet lock, maybe later I'll go ahead flip them side to side, but I didn't feel like fighting with the bushings to do that.

    But again, WOW!
    Cy

    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
    Vetter Windjammer IV
    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
    OEM Luggage Rack
    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
    Spade Fuse Box
    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
    750 FD Mod
    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
    XJ1100 Shocks

    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

  • #2
    XJ rear shock air pressure?

    Standard air pressure: 14 psi
    Max air pressure: 57 psi
    Min air pressure: 14 psi

    Larry
    Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

    If you're not riding, you're not living!
    82 XJ1100
    80 XS1100G (Project bike)
    64 Yamaha YA-6
    77 Suzuki TS-185

    79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
    See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Yahman View Post
      Standard air pressure: 14 psi
      Max air pressure: 57 psi
      Min air pressure: 14 psi

      Larry
      Good, sounds like 28 may be a good starting point then. I'm out on a test ride so I'll report back on the ride later.
      Cy

      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
      Vetter Windjammer IV
      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
      OEM Luggage Rack
      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
      Spade Fuse Box
      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
      750 FD Mod
      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
      XJ1100 Shocks

      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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      • #4
        I was pretty amazed at how well the rear end settled down when I put mine in. Te ride is sooo much nicer. Plus no more jacking around with the spring adjusters is nice too.
        Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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        • #5
          Crap.....

          .... something ELSE I have to find and buy!

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          • #6
            Most of the time, I run mine up around 40 psi and the dampener on 4. That gives me a decent ride when I'm loaded with gear, then a stiffer ride after I get where I'm going, drop off the gear, and go ride.

            Just a suggestion.


            Tod
            Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

            You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

            Current bikes:
            '06 Suzuki DR650
            *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
            '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
            '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
            '81 XS1100 Special
            '81 YZ250
            '80 XS850 Special
            '80 XR100
            *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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            • #7
              Originally posted by trbig View Post
              Most of the time, I run mine up around 40 psi and the dampener on 4. That gives me a decent ride when I'm loaded with gear, then a stiffer ride after I get where I'm going, drop off the gear, and go ride.

              Just a suggestion.


              Tod
              I may try increasing it. I thought it was riding pretty good at 28, but I'll give it a try a bit higher. Only thing I don't like is getting the air in it. I really didn't want to fight with the bushings so I just flipped them around, so the schrader valve is a little hard to get the tire pump onto. It would be a LOT better if it were the other way around, but I didn't feel like spending a couple of hours getting those bushings out and swapped on such a beautiful day. Frankly I wanted to see how they worked. I do have the damping set at 4. Does anybody else have trouble getting air into the forks and shocks with a bicycle pump? It's a real hassle, maybe this pump is just not what I need.
              Cy

              1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
              Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
              Vetter Windjammer IV
              Vetter hard bags & Trunk
              OEM Luggage Rack
              Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
              Spade Fuse Box
              Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
              750 FD Mod
              TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
              XJ1100 Front Footpegs
              XJ1100 Shocks

              I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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              • #8
                Don't you have a compressor? Heck, I carry a small compressor in my saddlebag, that plugs into the cig. lighter in the fairing.
                1980 XS850SG - Sold
                1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

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                • #9
                  It takes such a miniscule amount of air to increase the pressure, that any type of compressor would be tough, but could be done by using the stop switch. I use a small bicycle pump that would hook onto the underside of the main frame of the bike, so it's small enough to hold in my hands and get where I need it. Just make sure the gauge of it is in small enough increments to be able to really see what it's putting in.


                  Tod
                  Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                  You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                  Current bikes:
                  '06 Suzuki DR650
                  *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                  '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                  '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                  '81 XS1100 Special
                  '81 YZ250
                  '80 XS850 Special
                  '80 XR100
                  *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                  • #10
                    When I'm at home I use a compressor with a regulator set to the pressure that I need. I check it with my gauge to make sure its right before I hook the air to the bike. On the road I use a small bicycle hand pump like Tod mentioned.

                    Larry
                    Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
                    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

                    If you're not riding, you're not living!
                    82 XJ1100
                    80 XS1100G (Project bike)
                    64 Yamaha YA-6
                    77 Suzuki TS-185

                    79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
                    See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yahman View Post
                      When I'm at home I use a compressor with a regulator set to the pressure that I need. I check it with my gauge to make sure its right before I hook the air to the bike. On the road I use a small bicycle hand pump like Tod mentioned.

                      Larry
                      Now that's thinkin' with yer dipstick, Jimmy!
                      Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                      • #12
                        Ok, here I go hijacking my own thread. Does the special use shorter shocks? I have had several people state that they either had to get used to a higher sitting bike or that they can't use the XJ shocks because it would make the bike too tall.

                        When I got ready to install mine, I checked the length of them with against the stock shocks and they were both exactly the same, 12.5 inches. As a matter of fact, I changed them one at a time, and except for having to clearance the right lower eye to fit into the frame, the first one slid right on. For that matter, so far I have found the bike to sit slightly lower when I'm sitting on it. I'm still playing with the pressure, but I'm not understanding why I was told it makes the bike taller and that someone can't use them because their bike would be too tall and they couldn't balance it with them.

                        I just hate to see others not consider something that could improve their handling as much as they have done for me because of a misunderstanding of shock lengths if it's not true.
                        Cy

                        1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                        Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                        Vetter Windjammer IV
                        Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                        OEM Luggage Rack
                        Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                        Spade Fuse Box
                        Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                        750 FD Mod
                        TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                        XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                        XJ1100 Shocks

                        I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
                          When I got ready to install mine, I checked the length of them with against the stock shocks and they were both exactly the same, 12.5 inches.
                          Cy, I didn't measure the shocks when I changed them but I probably should have done that. Sorry about that.

                          I got on the bike afterward with only 10 or 15 lbs of air in the shocks and I was more on tippy-toe instead of flat-footed. Maybe the P.O. had put shorter shocks on at some point or my legs shrank while I was installing the shocks.

                          The lower shock bushings aren't too difficult to swap. I used a bench vice and, I think, a 14mm socket to press them out. I put a little paraffin wax, not oil, on the shock eyes when I pressed the bushings back in.

                          I have one of those 'Slime' 12V compressors and the hose clips onto the air valve, no problem. A quick 2 second blast with the On/Off rocker switch puts in about 20 to 25 lbs of pressure, then I remove the compressor's hose and use a precision gauge to bring the pressure down to where I want it.


                          Regards,

                          Scott
                          -- Scott
                          _____

                          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                          1979 XS1100F: parts
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                          • #14
                            Check the stock specs...that seems short...I thought they were stock at 13.75, but I'm no expert...
                            We lowered my bike almost 4", custom built the fork ends(so that it could be returned to stock easily), re-routed the brake lines, lowered the back to 10" shocks(easily turned back to stock)without ruining the drive-shaft and U-joint.
                            I only have about 4" of throw on the front end. It's a one-person bike unless we modify it again, but who am I goin' to ride on it? NOONE! I ride alone!!!
                            80 XS1100G w/ Windjammer-the Witch
                            79 XS1100F

                            "Look Ma! No hands!...."

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