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  • #16
    check to see if the linkage is hanging up on the clamp for the #3 carb. I read somewhere that if the screws that tighten the clamp aren't far enough away from the throttle linkage, it can catch on the screw or the clamp and keep the throttle open. maybe it maybe not, just a thought. have a nice day and ride safe
    I am the Lorax, I speak for the Trees

    '80 XS1100 SG (It's Evil, Wicked, Mean & Nasty)

    '79 XS1100 F R (IL Barrachino)

    '00 Suzuki Intruder 1400 (La Soccola)

    '77 KZ400s (La Putana)

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    • #17
      What's his hangup??

      Hey Lorax,

      That's what I was going to suggest he check. Yep, the clamps that hold the carbs onto the intakes can get hung up on the linkage mechanism. He needs to see IF he can push the linkage to see if it will move farther closed than it does with the cable off! IF so, then needs to see where it's hanging up and change it so that the linkage doesn't hang up, then he should be able to put the cable back on and all should be right in the world again!!
      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
      How nature points out the folly of men!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tadtl1 View Post
        ... is it possible that a vaccuum line has come off and caused this, I doubt it, but it can be checked easily.
        Theyre a mystery to me too but as I understand it the vacuum works on the top of the diaphram lowering the pressure to open the slide. If the vacuum line was disconnected the sppring pressure on top of the slide would simply close. The over-revving described has to be a mechanical issue with the cable, linkage, or jamned throttle plates etc.
        1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
        2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

        Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

        "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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        • #19
          Yep, DBeardslee (aka Doug) has it right. I always refer to the Cat-in-the-Hat song Calculatus-eliminatus. The way to find that missing something is to find out where its not!
          Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

          When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


          Previously owned
          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
          80 CB750 C
          78 XS750

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          • #20
            Twist throttle free play...

            I was going to ask about the twist throttle free play is/was....

            Throttle free play should be inspected regularly and adjusted as the cable tends to stretch over time. Part of your pre flight inspection.

            I will explain it as the amount of free play movement of the RH twist throttle mechanism on the handlebars. The distance that the throttle handle moves freely before you can begin to feel the carburetor throttle spring resistance.

            Should be set so that there is a small amount of movement to ensure that when the throttle handle is released, that the carburetor butterfly valves close completely to the point that the idle set screw is calibrated to. Thus, also ensuring that there is not any spring tension on the throttle cable at all times.

            The manual gives instruction on checking/adjusting this....

            So, if the carbs were mechanically binded at the carbs themselves, the free play would be excessive (sorry, I meant to say "XSive") AND if the cable were routed incorrectly or the sheath were out of position or pulling, there would be no free play at all....

            I did have a hard time, for some reason, explaining this. Could someone please clean this up for me?
            Kurt
            Treasure Coast, Florida

            I have a parking problem everywhere I go....

            2001 Mitsubishi Montero
            1987 944 n/a
            1979 Titan
            1979 Yamaha XS 1100 SF
            1984 Suzuki SP 250
            1987 Santana 23
            1944 Aeronca L-3B Grasshopper

            If it fly's, float's or fornicates..... your better off having a lease!

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            • #21
              Insert Tab-A into Slot-A after Folding Along Dotted Line-X.

              I understood just fine.

              But then we're both able to "see" the pictures in our heads of what it looks like cause we've both had our faces in those areas.

              Might have been a real head-scratcher for someone who's never even pulled off the fuel tank though.

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              • #22
                I hate to say this

                Doing good so far, but what about this ,, is it possible for some piece of something to actually break away in the carb or air cleaner and travel inside to jam things open??? JAT
                Bikes Now.
                80 MNS 11 pods,georgefix kit,stock jets, HD Sporty muffs
                79 XS 11 Special, Emgo pods, stock jets, with Pacifico fairing, hard bags, intact stock pipes Sold
                83 Yammi Venture with custom footboards, 20k miles.
                83 Yammi Venture parts bike

                99 Valkyrie shield and bags 37k miles like new
                08 ZX 14 Kawa Ninja 6k miles Sold

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                • #23
                  Ok so you removed the throtle cable from the carbs and it's still stuck flat open. Does the clip you remved the cable from move up and down freely?
                  79 XS11 Special (Lazarus)
                  80 XS850 Special (Old Faithful)
                  80 XS11 Standard sorta stock (Beatrice)
                  79 DT 100

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                  • #24
                    Sounds like maybe one or more of the buterflies are stuck open. Could it even rev up if the buterflies were closed but the slides were stuck open? Your best bet would be to take the crabs off and check everything over, see if the buterflies open and close freely and make sure the slides move smoothly. Anyone know if a bad (jammed) buterfly seal would make one or all stick open?

                    Please correct me if my theory is wrong. If you started the bike up with the cable removed and the air box off would/could you see one or two slides lift immedately if those buterflies were stuck open? Seems possible but it also seems like it wouldnt rev so freely with just one or two carbs WOT, let alone start easy...
                    Last edited by WMarshy; 03-07-2010, 11:50 AM.
                    '79 XS11 F
                    Stock except K&N

                    '79 XS11 SF
                    Stock, no title.

                    '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                    GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                    "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                    • #25
                      I am curious if just one butterfly could be open....

                      Seems that the linkage would have to be seriously out of position, and that may just be the situation. Asides from the spring/tension pin at the synchronization adjustment screws, I can't see where there would be much play for a single or more open butterfly's.

                      I'm in for a dollar that the intake clamps caught the linkage during throttle twist.

                      I hope the gremlin reveals itself here in the future.
                      Kurt
                      Treasure Coast, Florida

                      I have a parking problem everywhere I go....

                      2001 Mitsubishi Montero
                      1987 944 n/a
                      1979 Titan
                      1979 Yamaha XS 1100 SF
                      1984 Suzuki SP 250
                      1987 Santana 23
                      1944 Aeronca L-3B Grasshopper

                      If it fly's, float's or fornicates..... your better off having a lease!

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                      • #26
                        It's possible for one of the throttle flap screws to work itself out and the throttle flap to get stuck against the inner carb body keeping all of them open. The throttle flaps are a machined fit. If one of em slides out of the throttle bar running through the carb body even a little bit it can easily stick open. I think you should definitely remove your carbs and check things out. You don't want a screw in your cylinder.
                        "The Hooligan" XJ1100, Virago Gauge Pods, Screaming Eagle Mufflers, K&N Filter, hand made rear fender, side covers, and solo seat, round bar conversion, small headlight, tail light, and cat eye turn signals, chip fuses, rewired the right way.

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                        • #27
                          This is exactly what mine is doing. Has been for a couple weeks. Am at my wits end.
                          1978 XS1100e Satin black untill I can afford some pearlescent red paint from house of color.
                          1978 XS1100s Flat Black with a Windjammer and hard bags setup. (parts pig)

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                          • #28
                            I had it happen once when the "goose neck" at the throttle grip was broken.

                            Originally posted by vileneeds View Post
                            This is exactly what mine is doing. Has been for a couple weeks. Am at my wits end.
                            Skids (Sid Hansen)

                            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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