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  • Just purely technical!!!

    I thought when i got my bike, that the lock for the front end did not work. I could not get the key to turn no matter where i tuned the wheel. Yes i pushed it down to turn. While working on my 650, (greasing the steering head bearings) I tried the lock on that while i had it out cleaning. Same darn thing, couldn't get it to move. Finally i kept pressure turning while i let up the key, and presto it worked. I walked over to the 1100 and tried it, and presto it worked. I guess my question is, is this normal? Is there a way to correct it if it isn't? I felt very dumb when this happened. I had been telling everyone that it didn't work, and blaming it on my Cousin for not reassembling the bike right.
    1980 XS1100LG Midnight
    1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


    "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

    Here's to a long life and a happy one.
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    A pretty girl and an honest one.
    A cold beer and another one!

  • #2
    Best solution would be to take the switch apart and lube the internals and the locking mechanism. The lock position usually doesn't get used as much, so it's prone to hang up more than the normal on and off positions.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

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    • #3
      That's the way it works!

      From the owner's manual!

      Steering Lock
      The steering is locked when the main switch is in the "LOCK" position. To lock the steering, turn the handlebars fully to the right or left. Give one push to the key at the "OFF" position: then turn it counterclockwise to the "LOCK" position and remove the key. To release the lock, turn the key clockwise.
      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
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      • #4
        Yes it is normal, if I am understanding the question correctly. If you push the key down and hold it down, it will not turn to the lock position. You need to push it down and release it, then turn it counter clockwise from the off position.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #5
          Best solution would be to take the switch apart and lube the internals and the locking mechanism.
          I didn't even know I had a steering wheel lock, until I took the switch apart and cleaned it. After 30 years it had gotten pretty grungy in there. Also, be careful when engaging the lock - if you turn it all the way, in addition to locking the forks, it will cause the taillights to come on. It can be a battery drainer.
          I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

          '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dbeardslee View Post
            Also, be careful when engaging the lock - if you turn it all the way, in addition to locking the forks, it will cause the taillights to come on. It can be a battery drainer.
            Eh? I never had that problem on my '78, and wouldn't it kind of defeat the purpose of a lock? I would think that's an internal problem in the switch and not a design feature....

            '78E original owner
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
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            • #7
              Hey Steve,

              Not sure when they implemented it, but in both of my 81's and all other XSs I have seen, the switch has four positions. Off, On, Lock, and Park. To get to Lock you push the key down and turn counter clockwise to get to lock, if you continue turning past that just a bit, the rear parking light is turned on. It is pretty easy to turn it to far if your not paying attention just like Doug suggested.
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • #8
                Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                Eh? I never had that problem on my '78, and wouldn't it kind of defeat the purpose of a lock? I would think that's an internal problem in the switch and not a design feature....

                '78E original owner
                That is a design feature and is indeed built in to every XS11 I have owned. You can lock the steering in one position, and when you lock the steering in the other psoition it also turns on the tail light. I believe this was in case you had to leave it at the side of the road. Others could see it was there due to the light but with the steering lock it was secure. The battery did drain if it was used for long periods of time but was better than having someone rear end a disabled bike.
                2-79 XS1100 SF
                2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                • #9
                  Thanks guys. I just figured if i was going to be away from the bike awhile, i would lock it. Thanks for the tip on the tail light also.
                  Bob
                  1980 XS1100LG Midnight
                  1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


                  "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

                  Here's to a long life and a happy one.
                  A quick death and an easy one.
                  A pretty girl and an honest one.
                  A cold beer and another one!

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                  • #10
                    Whup! Went and looked.... Well, it does have a 'p' postion. I guess I never used it, never suffering a disabled bike (at least at night). Must not have screwed up with it either, as I don't remember running the battery down.

                    Learn sumpin' new all the time.....

                    '78E original owner
                    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                    '78E original owner - resto project
                    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                    '82 XJ rebuild project
                    '80SG restified, red SOLD
                    '79F parts...
                    '81H more parts...

                    Other current bikes:
                    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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