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    Let off the throttle, took hands off the grips, and as I decelerate, head shake commences. Any thoughts? Doesn't seem to do it if I'm holding on...

  • #2
    Mine does that too, 40mph down to 25 mph decelerating when my rear tire pressure is low. When I keep it around 38 to 40lbs the shake disappears.
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    80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
    Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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    • #3
      Possible causes...

      Steering stem bearings could be loose.
      Tire might be under inflated.
      Fork pinch bolts may be loose.
      Forks may be misaligned.
      Wheel axle might be loose.
      Wheel bearings might be shot.
      Caliper may be sticking.
      Rotors may be warped.

      Hope it's not all of these...

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      Last edited by bikerphil; 02-08-2010, 09:36 PM.
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      3H3 owned since '06

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      • #4
        Few things I would check:

        1) Condition and age of the front tire

        2) Time for tire rebalance?

        3) Bike ever been in a crash? Ck. fork straightness

        4) Triple tree bolt torque

        5) Tire pressure

        HTH's
        '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

        '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

        2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

        In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
        "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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        • #5
          Different tires can make a difference. My Honda 1300st would shake on deceleration and a different new tire solve it, as it did for many others.
          Skids (Sid Hansen)

          Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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          • #6
            palsy will make your head shake also
            careful what you wish for.........you might get it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by chrisgroup1 View Post
              Let off the throttle, took hands off the grips, and as I decelerate, head shake commences. Any thoughts? Doesn't seem to do it if I'm holding on...
              Hi Chris and welcome,
              as has been posted, could be one or more of several causes.
              Headshake is common on sidecar rigs and what fixes most of those cases is tightening the headraces.
              Note that sidecar rigs need headraces set way tighter than on a solo bike but too loose is a bad thing on any machine.
              Here's my solo recommendation.
              Bike on centerstand and the front of the frame jacked up so the front wheel is off the ground.
              Use two peg wrenches to tighten the notched ring nuts under the top triple tree so that while the forks will stay central they fall to the side when the end of the handlebar is nudged.
              If you are new to the bike, you could tear down the headrace enough to inspect and re-grease it before completing the adjustment. Note that while the fork should turn freely (as above) there should be no lateral play at all and the movement should be absolutely smooth.
              Fred Hill, S'toon
              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mxmikie View Post
                palsy will make your head shake also
                I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that I would shake my head too if I was accellerating and had to suddenly slow down.
                1980 XS850SG - Sold
                1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
                  I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that I would shake my head too if I was accelerating and had to suddenly slow down.
                  Hi 'Bug,
                  in those circumstances, better that you should concentrate on bowel control?
                  Fred Hill, S'toon
                  XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                  "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                  • #10
                    i shake my head when my 600 dollar 30 year old bike keeps up with, or pulls away from my friends new, more 'expensive' bikes

                    but, back on topic

                    i get the same thing

                    hands off on slow deceleration i get a front end shake

                    once i put my hands back on, luckily, shake instantly stops

                    im getting new tires this season, so i hope that helps
                    1980 XS1100SG - almost done

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                    • #11
                      Chrisgroup1,

                      Had another thought...

                      Does your bike have a fairing?

                      I have experienced a similar effect on my XJ w/ my Vetter 4 setup @ low speeds... very unsetteling when it happens...

                      The fix? Make sure any extra cargo load weights are placed in the proper places if you have bags and carry things... you need weight in the storage areas of your fairing... it's amazing how much that helps!

                      I had tool bags, etc. either in the trunk or the side bags... but thought I was OK with the way I tried to keep things balanced and evenly placed. But had nothing over the forks in the fairing. Once I repositioned the load, and placed the heavy stuff in the fairing... no more wobble!
                      JAT
                      '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                      '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                      2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                      In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                      "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by skids View Post
                        Different tires can make a difference. My Honda 1300st would shake on deceleration and a different new tire solve it, as it did for many others.
                        Same for me with my ST1100, except my shake began when I switched tires. Avon replaced it for free and the replacement did the same thing. Never a hint of shake with stock Bridgestones. I live with it though, cuz the Avons are great tires but next change I'm gonna try something else. Back to the XS....never a headshake problem.
                        80 SG
                        81 SH in parts
                        99 ST1100
                        91 ST1100

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