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  • dontlikeoc
    Truly XSive
    • Nov 2009
    • 173
    • Alhambra, CA

    #1

    Are these front or rear intake manifolds?

    I just found out that both front and rear intake manifolds have cracks that went all the way through to inside.

    Are these from Parts'n more to go to the front of the carbs, or rear of the carbs?

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    dontlikeoc
    1981 XS1100 Special Edition
    Alhambra, CA
  • dewibp
    XStremely XSive
    • Jun 2005
    • 315
    • Work out of Dakota Dunes SD but live in eastern Iowa (Quad Cities)

    #2
    The one label "carb holders" go on the front or bolt onto the head and then the carbs slide into them.
    DEW
    One Red "Creation 1"
    One Black"Creation 2"
    One Black"Creation 3"
    One ???? "Creation 4"
    One ???? "Creation 5"
    One ???? "Parts Bike"
    All the above 1100 Specials
    78 Standard (Ruf Ruf)
    1980 Midnight Special
    1978 650 SE

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    • tarzan
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Apr 2008
      • 1700
      • Chandler,Az.

      #3
      The ones at PNM are intake manifolds and go between the carbs and heads.
      The ones between the carbs and air cleaner are tubes to connect the two components.I have heard them referred to as velocity stacks too, but I think that might be a stretch.
      80 SG XS1100
      14 Victory Cross Country

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      • dontlikeoc
        Truly XSive
        • Nov 2009
        • 173
        • Alhambra, CA

        #4
        Thanks for clarifying. So, as for the ones that go between the carbs and the air cleaner, where would you get them? i dont see anybody, including PNM and ebay, listing them. Is getting them from Yamaha the only way? The current ones are shrunk and dont barely connect from old age, I definately need new ones.
        dontlikeoc
        1981 XS1100 Special Edition
        Alhambra, CA

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        • dewibp
          XStremely XSive
          • Jun 2005
          • 315
          • Work out of Dakota Dunes SD but live in eastern Iowa (Quad Cities)

          #5
          I was just checking a couple sites for the air cleaner/carb boots but so far found none. I guess I've never heard, or seen, these shrink up to the point they are too short. Are you sure they are the right ones? They typically get hard with age and crack/become hard and difficult to install are the usual problems. Some one will be along to clear it all up for all.
          DEW
          One Red "Creation 1"
          One Black"Creation 2"
          One Black"Creation 3"
          One ???? "Creation 4"
          One ???? "Creation 5"
          One ???? "Parts Bike"
          All the above 1100 Specials
          78 Standard (Ruf Ruf)
          1980 Midnight Special
          1978 650 SE

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          • bikerphil
            Master of XSology
            • Jan 2008
            • 8635
            • South Flori-DUH

            #6
            You could just get another airbox from Andreas that has good stacks. JAT
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • dontlikeoc
              Truly XSive
              • Nov 2009
              • 173
              • Alhambra, CA

              #7
              The one on the #1 carb and air cleaner box is the iffiest barely covering the lip.
              dontlikeoc
              1981 XS1100 Special Edition
              Alhambra, CA

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              • cywelchjr
                XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
                • Oct 2008
                • 4450
                • Sacramento, CA

                #8
                Yep, mine are a bit hard to get connected on without them slipping off. I can get them there, but it's not easy. And yes I have the airbox positioned as far forward as I can get it to go.
                Cy

                1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                Vetter Windjammer IV
                Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                OEM Luggage Rack
                Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                Spade Fuse Box
                Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                750 FD Mod
                TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                XJ1100 Front Footpegs
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                • dewibp
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 315
                  • Work out of Dakota Dunes SD but live in eastern Iowa (Quad Cities)

                  #9
                  STILL thinking...... are you sure the air box is installed properly and not sitting too far back not allowing the boots to slip onto the carb inlets? If I remember correctly there is a way to "cheat" the air box (slide it back) so you don't have bloody knuckles and or a mental break down trying to get them all slid on. Check that the two bolts are in place on the side and the top do hickey is something or other............... brain dead now.
                  DEW
                  One Red "Creation 1"
                  One Black"Creation 2"
                  One Black"Creation 3"
                  One ???? "Creation 4"
                  One ???? "Creation 5"
                  One ???? "Parts Bike"
                  All the above 1100 Specials
                  78 Standard (Ruf Ruf)
                  1980 Midnight Special
                  1978 650 SE

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                  • dontlikeoc
                    Truly XSive
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 173
                    • Alhambra, CA

                    #10
                    They have cracks that reach the inside. They are temporarily RTV'd. I will attempt fiddling better fitment.

                    BTW, are the carb holders(between the engine and the carbs) and air filter box joints(between the air box and the carbs) interchangeable with those for XS650 by chance?
                    dontlikeoc
                    1981 XS1100 Special Edition
                    Alhambra, CA

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                    • mxmikie
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 482
                      • Bouse az

                      #11
                      careful what you wish for.........you might get it

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                      • redbone
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 244
                        • Waynesboro pa

                        #12
                        you can get a little more travel out of the airbox movement by taking a rattail file [a small dremel grinder works even better] and filing out the mounting bracket holes in both directions . HTH
                        testing 1-2-3

                        1980 1100 mns

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                        • DiverRay
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 7605
                          • Star, IDAHO

                          #13
                          If they have been in the sun, they WILL shrink beyond the useful stage. Do as bikerphil has suggested and PM Andreas. You can also check with some of the closer owners, and see if anyone has a "spare" upper air box. The rubber parts ARE velocity stacks, and they DO help with the HP on these bikes. Yamaha did a very good job on the design in 1978.....
                          Ray Matteis
                          KE6NHG
                          XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                          XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                          • dontlikeoc
                            Truly XSive
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 173
                            • Alhambra, CA

                            #14
                            About getting a new airbox from Andreas, suggested by Phil, what does Phil mean by "good stacks"? Is he suggesting that this is more of the airbox issue? Better understanding would help me make the right decision.
                            dontlikeoc
                            1981 XS1100 Special Edition
                            Alhambra, CA

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                            • bikerphil
                              Master of XSology
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 8635
                              • South Flori-DUH

                              #15
                              Velocity stacks are the 4 rubber inlets that you are having problems with. There are a lot of extra air boxes out there just laying around because many people switch to pod filters.
                              2H7 (79) owned since '89
                              3H3 owned since '06

                              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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