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  • apndrvs
    XSive
    • Dec 2009
    • 30
    • Clarksville Tn

    #1

    Header heat

    OK so i went today and bought a 500 degree primer and paint. im planing on painting my whole exhaust system. has anyone used this paint before and is it worth it. im not sure how hot the headers get. any help????
    1979 xs1100sf
    custom exhaust
    dragbars
    POD filters
    re-jetted carbs

    http://s903.photobucket.com/albums/a...drvs/?newest=1
  • tinman905
    XSive Maximus
    • Aug 2007
    • 946
    • Orangeville,Ontario ,Canada

    #2
    There is 1200 or higher in temp paint available ,500 degree paint won't last as long if at all.
    BDF Special
    80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
    Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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    • apndrvs
      XSive
      • Dec 2009
      • 30
      • Clarksville Tn

      #3
      i saw a 2000 degree beside it but it was a whole 2 dollars more. im such a tight wad. i think i may take it back, i just wasnt sure how hot the headers got.
      1979 xs1100sf
      custom exhaust
      dragbars
      POD filters
      re-jetted carbs

      http://s903.photobucket.com/albums/a...drvs/?newest=1

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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8635
        • South Flori-DUH

        #4
        500 degree will burn off where the headers curve downward real quick. I usually use 1200 or higher.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • trbig
          Simply used to just post A LOT!
          • Nov 2005
          • 7838
          • Ada, Oklahoma

          #5
          Several people have shot the headers with thermal/infrared thermometers, in the summer, and none of them have reached even 300 degrees. Why wouldn't the 500 degree work?

          I personally used the 1200 degree stuff, but why wouldn't the 500 degree stuff work?


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          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
          '81 XS1100 Special
          '81 YZ250
          '80 XS850 Special
          '80 XR100
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          • bikerphil
            Master of XSology
            • Jan 2008
            • 8635
            • South Flori-DUH

            #6
            Originally posted by trbig
            why wouldn't the 500 degree stuff work?
            It will work, just not as well. You're better off using BBQ paint than 500.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • apndrvs
              XSive
              • Dec 2009
              • 30
              • Clarksville Tn

              #7
              ok went today and bought the 2000+ degree i hope it works good got the whole exhaust system painted today i will re-mount it tomorrow.
              1979 xs1100sf
              custom exhaust
              dragbars
              POD filters
              re-jetted carbs

              http://s903.photobucket.com/albums/a...drvs/?newest=1

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              • T99Ford
                XSive Maximus
                • May 2008
                • 678
                • Bozeman,MT

                #8
                quote: Several people have shot the headers with thermal/infrared thermometers, in the summer, and none of them have reached even 300 degrees. Why wouldn't the 500 degree work?

                300 might be the head temp in the summer time (I have seen 200+ head temp lots of times in stop and go). That will barely burn your hands. My 500 deg. infrared won't even register (it peaks out) if I do this in the summer after a hard pull, when measured at the first curve in the header. I have seen 300 down toward the muffler, though. I guess running around town might be cooler, but if you are putting a good load on, that 500 paint will burn right off. For reference, the EGT's on my 1000 cc sled run up to 1250 with a good load on, and shortly thereafter squeak a piston It is nothing to see 1000 deg. during normal running. Four stroke is not that much different. 500 deg would do the head but not the pipes.
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                • 1st bike
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 258
                  • indiana

                  #9
                  apndrvs, how did you clean your pipes first? i have some DIRTY chrome pipes and if the weather turns (you know...gets above like 10 degrees) i am gonna try to sandblast them in the driveway, and then hit them with the high degree paint, then wrap em. did you just scuff them up with some sand paper or did yours not start chrome? let me know if you have any good tips before i freeze to death sandblasting in the snow!
                  1980 XS 1100 Special (working to be my daily ride)

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                  • GARTHXS
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1631
                    • Seattle

                    #10
                    cleaning

                    I blasted em at the car wash and then let them dry and went over them with some laquer thinner to get the oils off and shot mine with BBQ
                    91 kwaka kz1000p
                    Stock


                    ( Insert clever quote here )

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                    • apndrvs
                      XSive
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30
                      • Clarksville Tn

                      #11
                      i started with sand paper but after about 10min i decided there had to be a better way, then i remembered that i have a 5" grinder and bought a sandpaper attachment for it. i had them cleaned up in about 15min. i have pics of them on facebook but dont know how to get them on here. hope this helps.
                      1979 xs1100sf
                      custom exhaust
                      dragbars
                      POD filters
                      re-jetted carbs

                      http://s903.photobucket.com/albums/a...drvs/?newest=1

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                      • apndrvs
                        XSive
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 30
                        • Clarksville Tn

                        #12
                        ok here is the url to photobucket there are a few before and after pics of my headers on there

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                        1979 xs1100sf
                        custom exhaust
                        dragbars
                        POD filters
                        re-jetted carbs

                        http://s903.photobucket.com/albums/a...drvs/?newest=1

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                        • vileneeds
                          XSive
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 79
                          • Maine

                          #13
                          Thankfully I found this thread, I was going to ask the same q's about this. 1200 degrees then? I am going to polish asmuch on my bike's engine as posible then gloss black the rest. Any tips on painting the jugs?
                          1978 XS1100e Satin black untill I can afford some pearlescent red paint from house of color.
                          1978 XS1100s Flat Black with a Windjammer and hard bags setup. (parts pig)

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                          • Montreux_Blue
                            XS-XJ Guru (Deceased)
                            • May 2008
                            • 1143
                            • Longitude: -85° 57' 43" Latitude: 37° 52' 55"

                            #14
                            apndrvs, I was looking at the pics and noticed something else you need to do.... I hope you still have the original air box so you can modify those pod filters.....


                            Read this...... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...hlight=pod+mod
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                            • ManitoulinLad
                              XStremely XSive
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 358
                              • Manitoulin Island,Ont.,Canada this is in Lake Huron

                              #15
                              Hey Guys: I have done the same with my bike motor & 4 into one exhaust - 1200 degree black from hardware store - just clean it up with acetone (can be baought at hardware store) b4 you paint & this stops it from pealing off. I did this with the whole motor too -Dan
                              '81 XS1100 LH - Midnight Special - been lookin' a long time for this one.
                              1179 big bore kit, 80SG motor
                              Rebuilt head, valves
                              TC Bros Forward Controls (Brass Pegs)
                              Tkat Fork Brace
                              T.C. Spade Fuse Box
                              Dyna Coils & wires
                              Mikesxs shocks,controls,& bars (special)
                              ISO grips with stelleto ends
                              4 into 1 black Bassani exhaust
                              Bridgestone Spitfires
                              Tuned by Tinman905
                              & a will to keep it.

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