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  • #31
    Originally posted by joceiphus View Post
    Hi Andrew,
    Can you tell me what bike your kick start lever came from?
    Did you have to heat it up and bend it?
    Thanks
    Joe
    actually the service or emergency kick was still on the original bike when i got it....but i have converted an xs650 kick to the bike
    America Land Of The Free
    (new statement)
    America Land Of The Punished,Guilty,Abused and Forsaken. Take Our Country Back

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    • #32
      I am getting ready to cut up one of my 1100's. Let us know more....
      1978 XS1100e Satin black untill I can afford some pearlescent red paint from house of color.
      1978 XS1100s Flat Black with a Windjammer and hard bags setup. (parts pig)

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      • #33
        Just for everyone's info, Natural rubber is white...

        Thats why there was so much white the older you go in tire history. The first tires were all white, then they started going more and more black, with dye, as the white tires were so hard to keep clean.
        Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

        '05 ST1300
        '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Crazcnuk View Post
          Just for everyone's info, Natural rubber is white...
          Hi Craz,
          FWIW, dunno about the modern synthetics but natural rubber is a translucent mid-brown colour.
          The shift from white pigment to black was adding carbon black to the mix to increase the rubber's hardness so it'd last longer.
          From a 1920's Sears catalog:- "Our auto tires are guaranteed to last 8,000 miles or your money back"
          Tire longevity has improved since then, at least for car tires it has.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • #35
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewall_tire
            Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

            '05 ST1300
            '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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            • #36
              Twisting origional does make it unique, if not there would never be hot rods or choppers. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Resto is cool. Chopper is cool. Yours will always remain the best cause you made it your way. Who cares what "they" think unless they were twisting wrenches and cleaning for hours with you. Now that I've found this tip, I'm gonna change mine in the winter. At least I can pick mine out of a line up, and my friends know its mine if it goes missing.
              Some make 'em, most just make payments on 'em!
              1978 XS 1100E
              Vance & Hines Slip on Straight Shot Exhaust
              K & N Air filter
              Home built forward controls
              Vulcan Mustang seat
              A little chopped

              http://s812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/Brad_099/

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              • #37
                My two cents

                Gonna chime in on this thread. For your header wrap, the heat cycles will harden the metal
                and cause it to crack on you eventually. Especially with the thin walled pipe usually used by
                Chopper builders.


                Now for the whitewall issue. . .

                Some hot rod guys will sometimes take a sander or grinder and grind off a strip of the black
                Rubber to give the whitewall effect. After much cussin' and discussin' it was decided that so
                Little material is removed that it doesn't noticeably effect the structural integrity of the tire.
                With motorcycles though you only have the two tires so more would be at stake if one
                Catastrophically failed so I definitely wouldn't recommend this. They also covered different
                Options for painting the whitewalls on. If anyone wants to read up on these guys' methods
                Or whatnot they're the site for the mag Ol Skool Rodz.

                link is forum.olskoolrodz.com

                Lots of good universal tech info there as well.
                1980 XS11SG
                Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
                Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
                ratted out, mean, and nasty

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BigDick View Post
                  Gonna chime in on this thread. For your header wrap, the heat cycles will harden the metal
                  and cause it to crack on you eventually. Especially with the thin walled pipe usually used by Chopper builders. - - -
                  Hi Dick,
                  Nah, exhaust pipes are made from low carbon steel that simply can't be hardened. The header wrap will slow down the pipes cooling rate so they are more likely to be annealed rather than they are to be hardened.
                  Fred Hill, S'toon
                  XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                  "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                  • #39
                    Not going to argue the metallurgical terminology with you Fred, as I doubt most of the jokers on
                    Here could follow the big words ;-) and also I'm sure you're right. I don't remember exactly what
                    Everyone on the other forum determined was the cause, I do remember though most people who
                    Were running header wrap on their bikes had problems with their exhaust pipes cracking just below
                    The heads.
                    1980 XS11SG
                    Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
                    Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
                    ratted out, mean, and nasty

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BigDick View Post
                      - - - I don't remember exactly what
                      Everyone on the other forum determined was the cause, I do remember though most people who
                      Were running header wrap on their bikes had problems with their exhaust pipes cracking just below
                      The heads.
                      Hi Dick,
                      most likely the wrap insulated the pipes so they got heated to the temperature where steel loses it's strength.
                      On a dark night I've seen single wall pipes on Brit singles glow dull red at the top bend. Wrap 'em in an asbestos blanket and they'll get hotter yet.
                      Fred Hill, S'toon
                      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                      • #41
                        But, with that said, Header wrap increases performance by keeping the heat in the exhaust and increasing the scavaging effect.
                        Right?

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