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  • #16
    87 octane unleaded with no problems. I heard of research done by members of the Porsche Club on unleaded fuel on original leaded engines. The conclusion was that there was no need to have hardened valve seated installed in the head.

    As to the title of this thread:
    I don't remember what I ate that day but I once had "bad gas".... bad enough that it caused my wife to vomit. My kids and I thought it was funny, wife didn't.
    Pat Kelly
    <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

    1978 XS1100E (The Force)
    1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
    2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
    1999 Suburban (The Ship)
    1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
    1968 F100 (Valentine)

    "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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    • #17
      The XS1100E was designed to run on REGULAR/UNLEADED gas. High octane does NOT burn correctly, and can cause carbon buildup on the pistons and heads. I run 76 or Chevron in my bikes, and have no problems.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Athedra View Post
        You guys run on unleaded?

        Thought a major conversion needs to be done to get that done. I run on what is called lead replacement petrol over here. If you guys can vouch that she will run on unleaded, then I don't have to drive all over to find a fuel station that sells LRP
        When these bikes were introduced in the US in '78, leaded fuel was pretty much gone, so unleaded was usually your only choice. I'm pretty sure the owners manual stated that unleaded was recommended. But for sure, that's all I've ever ran. If a motor will tolerate unleaded, it's actually better as it leaves far fewer deposits behind.

        And I usually ran regular grade, as I never saw anything more than very slight mileage/performance gains with higher-octane fuel. Certainly not enough to justify the higher price. But my bike was/is stone-stock, so if you've tuned for more power you may need the higher grades.

        '78E original owner
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pat Kelly View Post
          ... I heard of research done by members of the Porsche Club on unleaded fuel on original leaded engines. The conclusion was that there was no need to have hardened valve seats installed in the head...
          Take that with a grain of salt. If the motor has aluminum heads with a pressed-in valve seat, yes, this is nearly always true. But if you have an older motor (pretty much anything pre-70s) with cast iron heads where the valve seat is machined directly into the casting, unleaded fuel can be an issue as the metal wasn't always hard enough to take the higher heat and lack of lubrication.

          '78E original owner
          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

          '78E original owner - resto project
          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
          '82 XJ rebuild project
          '80SG restified, red SOLD
          '79F parts...
          '81H more parts...

          Other current bikes:
          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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          • #20
            So a '79 standard (European) should handle unleaded no problem?
            '79 XS1100 (2H9) named Bones
            1196 Big Bore
            4-1 Cowley exhaust
            750FD Conversion
            Echlin 54mm Racing Cones (Americanese = pods)
            Black Ebony Bottled glazed Tank (To be redone now)
            BMX footpegs
            Tank internally lined (Professionally this time)
            GSX400 Throttle bodies (Under serious investigation)
            Anti Sticky float bowl system

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            • #21
              Absolutely.

              '78E original owner
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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