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  • XSokieSPECIAL
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Jun 2009
    • 1631
    • Tulsa, OK

    #1

    WOW! The okieSPECIAL got the 850 FD today!

    WOW! This mod is really great!

    Unless your a racer this is the way to go.

    Loss of lower end is almost unnoticable, but cruising at 70mph with the tach at 39 or 40k. That IS noticable. Power through all ranges is sooooooo smooooooth

    I can't wait for warmer weather now!


    Greg
  • XSokieSPECIAL
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Jun 2009
    • 1631
    • Tulsa, OK

    #2
    Oops!

    Originally posted by XSokieSPECIAL
    WOW! This mod is really great!

    Unless your a racer this is the way to go.

    Loss of lower end is almost unnoticable, but cruising at 70mph with the tach at 39 or 40k. That IS noticable. Power through all ranges is sooooooo smooooooth

    I can't wait for warmer weather now!


    Greg
    I meant 3900 or 4000. My bike doesn't run THAT good.

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    • XJOK2PLAY
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Jan 2009
      • 2099
      • Skiatook, Ok.

      #3
      That's great, Greg! Glad to hear you got it done.

      No problems?

      Should be a great cruiser now...
      '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

      '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

      2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

      In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
      "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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      • Ivan
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Jul 2008
        • 2524
        • Hutchinson KS

        #4
        Originally posted by XSokieSPECIAL
        I meant 3900 or 4000. My bike doesn't run THAT good.
        Darn, I was hoping for a turbine conversion write up.
        Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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        • XSokieSPECIAL
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jun 2009
          • 1631
          • Tulsa, OK

          #5
          Originally posted by XJOK2PLAY
          That's great, Greg! Glad to hear you got it done.

          No problems?

          Should be a great cruiser now...
          Went real smoooooth.

          Had everything all ready to install an did it at work where I had all the air tools and a lift.

          Only took about an hour.

          What a difference at highway speed.

          No problems yet. Hoping for some decent weather this weekend for a good shake down.

          BTW, How are you bro'? You haven't been around ch.11 for a while.

          Greg

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          • XSokieSPECIAL
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jun 2009
            • 1631
            • Tulsa, OK

            #6
            Originally posted by Ivan
            Darn, I was hoping for a turbine conversion write up.
            Maybe in the next episode.

            Stay tuned.LOL

            Greg

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            • tarzan
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Apr 2008
              • 1700
              • Chandler,Az.

              #7
              So did you use a copper spacer?
              80 SG XS1100
              14 Victory Cross Country

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              • XJOK2PLAY
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Jan 2009
                • 2099
                • Skiatook, Ok.

                #8
                I'm still here... too stubborn to give up...

                Hopin' we'll get that ride in before it gets too cold...

                I'm considering doin' the swap myself. Got access to a good 850 FD. Maybe when it gets too cold to ride.

                Thanks for askin', Greg.
                Ride Safe.
                '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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                • XSokieSPECIAL
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1631
                  • Tulsa, OK

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tarzan
                  So did you use a copper spacer?
                  Yes, I did. I wanted to see how well I liked it before I spent any more on it.

                  Has anyone had any problems with that copper spacer?

                  I don't really see how it could be a problem. Not much movement there to cause wear as far as I can see.

                  Greg

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                  • Bigfoot
                    XS-XJ GURU
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1422
                    • Kansas City, Missouri

                    #10
                    Originally posted by XJOK2PLAY
                    I'm still here... too stubborn to give up...

                    Hopin' we'll get that ride in before it gets too cold...

                    I'm considering doin' the swap myself. Got access to a good 850 FD. Maybe when it gets too cold to ride.

                    Thanks for askin', Greg.
                    Ride Safe.
                    Ride up to KC sometime Bob. Doesn't take long to do.
                    Harry

                    The voices in my head are giving me the silent treatment.

                    '79 Standard
                    '82 XJ1100
                    '84 FJ1100


                    Acta Non Verba

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                    • XSokieSPECIAL
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1631
                      • Tulsa, OK

                      #11
                      Originally posted by XJOK2PLAY
                      I'm still here... too stubborn to give up...

                      Hopin' we'll get that ride in before it gets too cold...

                      I'm considering doin' the swap myself. Got access to a good 850 FD. Maybe when it gets too cold to ride.

                      Thanks for askin', Greg.
                      Ride Safe.
                      The XJ has the same gearing as the XS?

                      Then you will know what I mean about smooth.

                      You know how it is in the lower gears when you hit that, sort of, power band at about 3 1/2 or 4 grand and the bike kinda lurches?

                      Not any more. Smooth power like riding a Goldwing.

                      And cruising at about 40mph in high gear it's almost idling but with that 1100 bottom end there is no bucking or chugging. Smoooooth and comfy.

                      I love it so far. Still need more road testing though.

                      You should take a spin.

                      Greg

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                      • 81xsproject
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 3185
                        • Fortuna, CA

                        #12
                        I like riding 5k at 70; right at the bottom of the BIG power curve. No loss on my bottom end power. You all can keep that final drive swap. It is nothing more than a mental block that makes you think you need to cruise at lower RPM. If I wanted to be slow and run at lower RPM, I'd get a Hardley.
                        '81 XS1100 SH

                        Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                        Sep. 12th 2015

                        RIP

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                        • trbig
                          Simply used to just post A LOT!
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 7838
                          • Ada, Oklahoma

                          #13
                          I like riding 5k at 70; right at the bottom of the BIG power curve. No loss on my bottom end power. You all can keep that final drive swap. It is nothing more than a mental block that makes you think you need to cruise at lower RPM. If I wanted to be slow and run at lower RPM, I'd get a Hardley.

                          Have you ever heard of anyone doing this and not liking it? After the swap, if you like to cruise at the same RPM as before, 4th gear after the swap is dang near identical to 5th before the swap. Besides, very little difference in takeoff power cruising at 4k rpm vs 5k. And if you want the same kick as before.. takes about a 1/4 second to downshift. Then in 5th, it feels like an overdrive, and feels much better when I cruise, but that's usually at 75-80mph on the highway.

                          Saying there's no way you'd like something and knocking it without actually trying it and having something to base your opinion on... THAT sounds like the mental block.


                          Tod
                          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                          Current bikes:
                          '06 Suzuki DR650
                          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                          '81 XS1100 Special
                          '81 YZ250
                          '80 XS850 Special
                          '80 XR100
                          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                          • Poprock
                            XSive Maximus
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 594
                            • Oregon Coast

                            #14
                            Loss of low end power was my concern. I live in a hilly, curvey, low-speed area now (80 ft. rise in my .2 mile driveway, mts on 3.5 sides) and I really like the 850 conversion. Tod is right, 4th is the old 5th, and 5th is smooth as glass. I can cruise over the Coast Range in 5th behind a bunch of "safe" drivers and get 45 mpg. Maybe better than that now with the newly installed re-manufactured carbs. Kong is making power he's never had before.
                            Depends on your style of riding I guess. Works for me.
                            1980 XS 11 Special: The King of Kong, 9th wonder of the world. Pacifico fairing, chopped shield, Yamaha hard bags, Diamond seat, T-Kat fork brace, XJ top end, YICS Eliminator, '80 carbs from Spyder Cycle Works, K&N Air filter, Fuse block, stainless steel valves & reg/rect from Oregon MC Parts. Raptor CCT, XJ air shocks, 850 FD, Sportster mufflers, Standard handle bar, Tusk Bar Risers, SS braided brake lines. Cat Eye speedometer. HID projector beam headlight, LED running lights.

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                            • oseaghdha
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1075
                              • N43.02.5,W88.14.2

                              #15
                              It's easily undone

                              After putting a season's worth of miles on the new F/D, I don't think I will be changing it back.
                              Maybe if I get another "road" bike I might put it back to stock but, the only advantage I see is if you want to spend all your time drag racing and scaring old ladies.

                              My SF still pulls like a freight train and I can still just blip the throttle, drop the clutch, and take off like before.

                              I find no downside to this conversion.
                              XS1100SF
                              XS1100F

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