So I am still working out the kinks on my F'er and it was not idleing right after fiddlen with it for a long while , so I pulled the carbs and started doing a full clean and lo and behold I found the problem, broken idle mix screw so I did the obligatory search on ch.11 and looked at the tips . so I ended up sticking the rack in the freezer for 5-6 hour or whenever swmbo found them and threw a fit and took them out, today went to the parts store and got a hook and pick set and some chemicals. brought them home and started to work on the carbs . I thought just for fun lets try this and I took a 90 degree pick and levered it with a big box end and the tip just popped out !! Looks like a good start to a nice day . unfortuantly I have to go to the salt mines so I cant install the carb and tune , oh well i guess I'll wait till tomorrow