Run without a rear brake?

[CatatonicBug]

For the short term...I am just going to have evrything cleaned up...as there is no time to order parts or SS lines...I have trip to New England starting next Thurs. In the long run I will do the SS line front and rear...actually on the XJ there are a total of 5 brake lines that would need to be changed...at least thats what I was quoted from a company out in Kalifornicated land that has Galfer kits.

Do you have a source for the SS lines for the XJ? I mean a kit that exactly replaces the existing lines, with all the correct fittings?

It's true, there are 5 lines that need to be replaced.
1. Rear caliper to rear MC
2. Rear MC to rear end of metal tube
3. Front end of metal tube to union at the forks
4. Union to front left caliper
5. Front MC to Front right caliper.

It's the exact same setup on the LH, and I really don't want to have to invent and measure my own setup, if someone already sells a SS kit that matches the OEM setup.

[trbig]

Just because your system is linked like the XJ system, they are different bikes with different caliper setups and different master cylinders. You're measurements aren't going to be the same.

You could buy one though.. figure out it doesn't work, and sell it to Ben at half price?


Tod

[CatatonicBug]

Just because your system is linked like the XJ system, they are different bikes with different caliper setups and different master cylinders. You're measurements aren't going to be the same.

You could buy one though.. figure out it doesn't work, and sell it to Ben at half price?


Tod

Ahh! But IS it different?? I actually have the SAME rear MC (I swapped it for an XJ one), and I know the lines are run the same way. I may go up to the local junkyard with a piece of string and take some measurements of the one in their showroom. Then I can compare to my own measurements. I'm just trying to find a place that makes a SS kit with all the right lines/connectors to match the system.

[Mad Dog Doug]

SS Brake line kits

... I'm just trying to find a place that makes a SS kit with all the right lines/connectors to match the system.

There was a kit on eBay for the 1100, the ad expired recently, but the guy (coastguard1975) makes up kits for many bikes and cars. Here is a quote from his eBay store: "Welcome. I am a Stalinless Steel Brake Hoses and Quality Auto Parts distributor.Please add me to your list of favorite sellers. If you didn't see the parts you looking for, please email me."

And here is the link to the now expired ad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_2110wt_811

I hope this helps.

[Bigfoot]

I appreciate the discussion on linked brakes...I for one like them...as I stated earlier...I had a panic stop from 60 mph as I misjudged the timing on a traffic light so I hit the both brakes... I'm sure the linked setup prevented the rear tire from locking up as I really braked as hard as I could. Its times like those when you dont have time to think of percentages of brake pressure front and rear...but maybe thats just me... In the twisties and hot in a corner...I trail brake using the front brake...never the rear and stay on the throttle and slowly ease off of it... just enough that I can regain the angle needed to get around the curve.

I liked the linked brakes on my XJ as well. But, you could still easily lock the rear in a panic stop. Once that back wheel locks, you can go down pretty easy. DAMHIK. I would not replace just the rear brake line with stainless. It seems that would cause more of a chance of unintenionally locking the rear. In fact the rear would probably lock before you got much out of the front. I am a big fan of the stainless lines, but wait until you can do the entire linked system. IMHO

[trbig]

Yeah, that is a good point Harry. I was only thinking of the brake pad retraction side of it.

But just let me say emphatically... I hated the linked system. As hard as I ride at times and the different characteristics that each brake gives you in the twisties, I wanted to be the one who controlled how much each brake was getting, not some antique valve. The linked system would be great under normal instances and mainly going straight... but much of my riding is done in "Other than normal" instances.


Tod

[DeanR]

I would not replace just the rear brake line with stainless. It seems that would cause more of a chance of unintenionally locking the rear. In fact the rear would probably lock before you got much out of the front. I am a big fan of the stainless lines, but wait until you can do the entire linked system. IMHO

Exactly why I only replaced my front lines. Wanted to leave the rear a bit more 'relaxed'.

[Guy_b_g]

But just let me say emphatically... I hated the linked system. As hard as I ride at times and the different characteristics that each brake gives you in the twisties, I wanted to be the one who controlled how much each brake was getting, not some antique valve. The linked system would be great under normal instances and mainly going straight... but much of my riding is done in "Other than normal" instances.

Thats exactly what I was trying to say, Tod.

(I feel the same way about linked brakes that you do about the current political situation...giving up too much control)

[trbig]

Exactly why I only replaced my front lines. Wanted to leave the rear a bit more 'relaxed'.

But you still get both brakes when the "rear" brake pedal is applied. That's exactly what I couldn't have to be able to ride like I do.. but very few ride like I do.

My mom read my last ride report and scolded me pretty heavily.. lol. I'll probably listen now just as well as I did growing up (Or at least growing older..)


Tod

[DeanR]

My SG is not linked..

[CatatonicBug]

My SG is not linked..

Only the LH and the XJ have the linked brakes.

[aussixs11G]

mate - what guy said - mine arent linked (XS1100) but after 30k klms my rear rotors still show thye maching marks from where I had them re-surfaced.
BUT - its wet, of gravel/dirt you are in trouble