centerstand interchangability

[65oldsboy]

Ah yes breakfast of champions

I thought that was cold (or room temperature from being left out all night) pizza and beer.

[madmax-im]

i thought that was cold (or room temperature from being left out all night) pizza and beer.

ymmv :d :d :d

[fredintoon]

The good ol' washer trick

Yeah thats what I have on my c.s. however what I thought was the spring attachment point on the frame is a loop and actually its a post thats comes out from the left side frame rail... so I tried to attach the spring from the c.s loop to the post and I cannot stretch the spring the 1/8" distance to connect them.

Hi Madmax,
try this:- grab the spring eye in a vise and bend the spring sideways. The coils will open up on one side. Shove washers in the gaps and let the spring close to grip them. Bend the spring the other way and the coils will open up on the other side. Shove washers in there too. OK, it's fiddly work and the washers may not want to stay in place but if you keep at it you will end up with a spring that's held open by those washers enough to install without you having to stretch it. Put the bike on it's stand and all the washers will fall out. Pick them up and you're done.

[Cobia]

Just looked up the cs in the Yamah parts cataloge and the cs for the XJ is the same as on the specials part # 3H3-27111-01-00, the standards use part # 2H7-27111-00-00. Yet the spring on both models mounts on the left.
Just drink your breakfast and you'll be able to do it. Like Tod said, channel locks will get you there.

[Axel]

XS to XJ

I'm using a XS centerstand on my XJ . I had to bend the pedal somewhat but it works . Spring is on the proper side .

[latexeses]

Would the centerstand for the special 16" wheel be 1/2" shorter than the standard 17" wheel to allow for the shorter stance?

Has that ever been measured?

Rodger

[Dan Hodges]

A Stiff One

Hey BNE,

I didn't realize this before, but saw a post from a guru about how there's a difference between the standards and specials due to the 16" rear wheels vs. the 17" rear wheels, the standards are a little longer/taller for the taller tire!

Perhaps the location of the spring clip is different for standards vs. specials, I don't know, but does sound like it's different for XS's vs. XJ's!? Do you know someone with a welder that could move the spring loop to the desired location??
T.C.

The Special and Standard center stands are the same except the Standard has longer legs to accomodate the Standard's taller wheel and tire. I found this out the hard way when I put the 17 inch wheel and tire on my Special. The only way you can get it on and off is to let the air out of the tire and then it's very diffulcult or make a plate to go beneath the center stand when you put the bike on it. I bought a long legged Standard stand but as yet haven't installed it and probably won't now that I've figured out a way to "jury rig it" (21st. century phraseology).

The center stand spring on mine is mighty stiff and hard to get on and off.
Dan

[Geezer]

Stick a large Phillips head screwdriver through the end of the spring and end over the post. Pull up on the screwdriver and lever the spring onto the post.

After a couple tries you should get the idea. Once you get the knack, this is easy...

Geezer

[Yahman]

This is how I did it, worked great.

Larry

Hi Madmax,
try this:- grab the spring eye in a vise and bend the spring sideways. The coils will open up on one side. Shove washers in the gaps and let the spring close to grip them. Bend the spring the other way and the coils will open up on the other side. Shove washers in there too. OK, it's fiddly work and the washers may not want to stay in place but if you keep at it you will end up with a spring that's held open by those washers enough to install without you having to stretch it. Put the bike on it's stand and all the washers will fall out. Pick them up and you're done.

[madmax-im]

Thankyou all for your suggestions...I just want to clarify that what I originally thought was the spring attachment point on the frame was actually a metal loop to route wires ...and the actual attacchment point is a post that comes off the frame on the left side near where the c.s. left pivot bolt mounts...this is in line with the attachment point on the c.s.
As for methodology to attach the spring first I got a 6 pack...LOL now I am going to attempt the screwdriver method...the spring is very taut and stiff...so if the 1st method doesn't work I'll try the washer method...

[Axel]

Tool

There is always the tool made for this purpose with a Tee handle and a shaft with a hook on the end .

[fredintoon]

Or do it backwards?

As for methodology to attach the spring first I got a 6 pack...LOL now I am going to attempt the screwdriver method...the spring is very taut and stiff...so if the 1st method doesn't work I'll try the washer method...:

Hi Madmax,
or Axel's hook, even? Looking at that thing makes me feel all piratical but you do need the room to get a straight pull on it, kinda dodgy under a bike.
There is yet another way. Pull the stand pivot bolts. Now the spring mounts can be moved towards each other enough to just slip the spring into place.
Use a tapered drift to get the pivot holes aligned and refit the pivot bolts.

[Geezer]

I've done hundreds of them with a screwdriver so I'm not inclined to buy a special tool but that looks like a good one. I might has sprung for one back when I was turning wrenches for a living...

Geezer

[65oldsboy]

My Cutlass had drum brakes on all 4 wheels. Lots of springs. A drum brake tool kit will do the job nicely.

[Yahman]

My Cutlass had drum brakes on all 4 wheels. Lots of springs. A drum brake tool kit will do the job nicely.

Like this one.

http://www.amazon.com/KD-Tools-Brake...501957&sr=8-15

Larry