fuel guage adjustment?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • GARTHXS
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Nov 2007
    • 1631
    • Seattle

    #1

    fuel guage adjustment?

    Is there any way to adjust the fuel guage on a 79f mine is not reading full when I fill it
    91 kwaka kz1000p
    Stock


    ( Insert clever quote here )
  • thewiz
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Oct 2006
    • 1115
    • Wilksboro, NC

    #2
    Bend the arm ...

    gotta be careful that it reads empty at the right time too though.
    80G Mini-bagger
    VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

    Past XS11s

    79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
    79SF eventually dismantled for parts
    79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
    79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
    79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

    Comment

    • Pat Kelly
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2002
      • 3046
      • Golden Valley, AZ

      #3
      Remove the sending unit from the tank and bend the arm down (like the float in the toilet tank).
      Bending it down will cause the gauge to read full sooner.
      Pat Kelly
      <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

      1978 XS1100E (The Force)
      1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
      2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
      1999 Suburban (The Ship)
      1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
      1968 F100 (Valentine)

      "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

      Comment

      • GARTHXS
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 1631
        • Seattle

        #4
        good idea

        So what kind of range should I get from a tank with a little space for fuel expansion on my 79 it is bone stock
        91 kwaka kz1000p
        Stock


        ( Insert clever quote here )

        Comment

        • motoman
          Master of XSology
          • Aug 2005
          • 8413
          • Grand Junction, Colorado

          #5
          Don't ride the
          special, but you should be able to safety go 125. Also, if you fill the tank to exactly half its rated capacity, ride around block watching where gauge settles to, remove tank, stand on front end(if your cap seal is working properly), remove float assembly, slighty benb float arm up or down depending on which direction gauge was from half tank, re-install, ride and check accuracy to half full, readjust as necessary.
          fuel gauges are just a close estimate anyways as float arm slides up and down a resister causing voltage to differ, causing gauge needle to sit wherever it does, that apply to most any tank sending unit and gauge. From that adjustment, it should be fairly close on either end. When sending unit is out, lightly clean off any rust, etc. that may be on the resister. You'll see how that works once out of tank.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

          Comment

          • GARTHXS
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 1631
            • Seattle

            #6
            special?

            My 79 is a standard F'er
            91 kwaka kz1000p
            Stock


            ( Insert clever quote here )

            Comment

            • skids
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Jul 2002
              • 5046
              • Florissant, CO, USA

              #7
              Before you take the trouble to remove the sending unit from the tank and bending it, you should make sure the mechanism in the gage is not bad. I have seen many go bad. Remove the gage. It should read zero with the key off. Tip the gage to the left and to the right. The indicator needle should not move appreciably. If it does deflect and stay when you tip it, the bimetalic thing in the gage is broken from repeated stress.
              Skids (Sid Hansen)

              Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

              Comment

              • 3Phase
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • May 2008
                • 5529
                • Simi Valley, CA

                #8
                Originally posted by garthxs
                Is there any way to adjust the fuel gauge on a 79f mine is not reading full when I fill it
                Garth, first up: No Smoking!

                Measure the voltage at the fuel tank connector before you try to adjust the float sender or the gauge needle. There should be 7 volts from the tank connector to ground -- no plus/minus -- seven volts. It's supposed to be regulated and it should work all the time the key is on. If it's not 7 volts or it's intermittant the regulator is bad or a wire broken. Fix the wire or get another regulator and keep a wary eye on the odometer between fill-ups. S.O.P. for most bikes, I know, but a working fuel gauge is nice.

                If you have 7 volts and the gauge is wrong the sender might be dirty and out of range or a P.O. might have 'adjusted' it by bending the float arm and the slide/resistor was shifted out of position. It can be adjusted by taking it out of the tank and cleaning and adjusting the slide on the resistor. Be careful removing the sheetmetal cover from the slide/resistor and ... don't bend the float arm.

                If the adjustment range on the sender isn't enough or you get non-linear (the gauge needle doesn't 'track' the movement of the float) or the needle doesn't come up to just below 'E' with an empty tank and just at or above 'F' with a full tank you can adjust the needle offset in the gauge. You do have to open up the tachometer to get at the adjusters but the needle can be adjusted to change both the offset (needle position at 'E' and 'F') and the rate at which it moves.

                It's really not as difficult to clean and adjust everything as it is to read and write about it. You can turn the key on and carefully move the sender with your hand and watch the needle the move to get it dialed in or you can check the sender with an ohm meter. The resistance doesn't have to be exact but it does have to be really close to the specs so I put the resistance values for the sender on my electrical schematic.

                Have fun!


                Regards,

                Scott
                -- Scott
                _____
                โ™ฌ
                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.
                โ™ฌ

                Comment

                • boyat68
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 358
                  • Virginia

                  #9
                  One thing for sure is that you don't use the fuel gauge as the final arbiter of your fuel situation. It is only a reference that you have fuel in the tank. You use the trip odometer and the reserve function to get you out of a sticky situation. Of course it would be nice if you could count on it to give an accurate account of your fuel on board.

                  Comment

                  • Science Guy
                    New
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4

                    #10
                    Voltage

                    I have a simlar problem with my 79 F. I believe mine has a faulty regulator from voltage test. However I have not been able to locate a replacement regulator. What is the voltage level supposed to be regulated to? 7 volts or another value? Where can I locate another regulator? Yamaha dealers say discontinued.
                    Second Star To The Right...And Straight On Till Morning

                    Comment

                    • bikerphil
                      Master of XSology
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 8630
                      • South Flori-DUH

                      #11
                      There's a fuel sending unit for a Standard on eBay right now, buy it now $35. Or try member Andreas.
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                      โ˜ฎ

                      Comment

                      • red bandit
                        XSive Maximus
                        • May 2005
                        • 950
                        • central michigan

                        #12
                        With my standard I get 150 miles on a tank plus another 55 miles on reserve. That's getting 39 mpg.
                        79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
                        79 SF parts bike.

                        Comment

                        • randy
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4521

                          #13
                          That's right about what I get, between 150-170 then it's reserve time. BTW, my fuel guage is very accurate, whenever I get the reserve 'bog' I glance at the guage and it's right there at "E". Maybe i'm lucky or maybe it's because my tach is only 2 yrs old?

                          Comment

                          • foreda
                            XSive Maximus
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 949
                            • Southwest Louisiana

                            #14
                            Tank guage

                            If I remember correctly, when you hit Empty, you should have about a gallon and one half reserve.
                            78 XS1100E Standard
                            Coca Cola Red
                            Hooker Headers

                            http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSC00580.jpg

                            1979 XS1100 Special
                            http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSC00612.jpg

                            1980 XS Standard
                            http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSC01137.jpg

                            2006 Roadstar Warrior
                            http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...um/warrior.jpg

                            Comment

                            • randy
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 4521

                              #15
                              To help avoid confusion, "EMPTY" is on the guage, which we have determined is different on every bike.... "RESERVE" is a more accurate way to compare. The fuel capacity numbers from the Cycle '78 and '79 reviews are:

                              Standard - Fuel capacity, main/reserve 4.2 gal./1 gal.)


                              Special - Fuel capacity, main/reserve 12.5 liters/2.5 liters (3.3 gal./O.66 gal.)

                              Both are slightly less than what Yamaha published, but close enough. Yamaha didn't publish the reserve capacity, at least not that I can find, they only published the total:

                              Standard - Fuel capacity 5.3 gal.

                              Special - Fuel capacity 4.0 gal.

                              Finally, even though my guage is accurate, I NEVER switch to reserve until the engine tells me to!

                              Comment

                              Working...