washer swap, just to be sure...

[greg maz]

that's the washer between 5th and 2nd being swapped to fit against the collar of the countershaft, right?

and there is 1 washer swap and not more, right?

I am taking pictures of the reassembly of the gears and washers and C rings and all on the countershaft but I am not sure it is correct, does anyone have some illustration?

[trbig]

Scroll down to my post # 7 on this thread. I posted some pics that may (Or may not) help you.

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16390


Tod

[greg maz]

sweet, that'll do

I'll try to shoot the whole reassembly,

this way every one will be able to see

that I am doin' it wrong

[greg maz]

how many c rings on the countersaft total?

3?
1 between 4th & 3rd
1 between 2nd & 5th
& where did I put the one between 1st & 4th rite?

it goes from left to right:

middle gear - large washer - 4th - C ring - 1st - C ring - small washer - 3rd - countershaft collar - washer (swapped) 2nd - C ring - 5th - clip

can't find 3rd C ring

[TopCatGr58]

Hey Greg,

Here's the Microfiche of the tranny and countershaft assembly!


The Middle Driven Gear, 1st gear with it's internal collar bearing, THEN the large washer #17, then C-clip #18, then 4th gear, then C-clip, washer and
3rd gear wheel, Next would be the 2nd gear wheel, but with the washer swap technique as Tod so finely illustrated in his thread, the washer would go next, then the 2nd gear wheel, then the C-clip, then the 5th gear wheel, but ofc it goes on only after you have the shaft in the engine, slid in from the outside of the case like when you first pulled it off.

So...yes, 3 C-clips are needed!
T.C.

[greg maz]

thx for correction & diagram

couldn't put the whole assembly back in the engine that way because of a couple mil. not clearing, figured: back to the interactive bible

I pray and swear at the same time

so middle gear touching the other gear then washer, and the 3rd C ring is a clip

[petejw]

On my 81 i couldnt get the shaft back in
doing the washer swap, let us know how you go,
the xj should be the same set up as my 81.
The bearing (31) and washer (29) is different to the earlier models.

[greg maz]

I had more trouble getting it out than putting it back in:

either way it was wiggling that did it, first the left part down, pushing the 2 left gears so they would clear the side of a gear underneath. That gets the shaft close to the bearing. Then rewiggle on the other side so that 2nd gear clear the side of the gear underneath too -I know it looks like it won't happen. Wiggling technique: left hand grabbing and shaking the shaft on one or several gears that are fixed to it, and the right hand on the tire moving the wheel back and forth a bit. Didn't happen all at once, took several steps to sink in.

But I didn't have to swear, just kept at it by necessity rather than belief.

As for the forks, I use the C ring remover tool to get them, a breeze.

[CatatonicBug]

left hand grabbing and shaking the shaft

I want to, but I won't go there...

[greg maz]

I swear it works

[DGXSER]

It works right or left handed...I swear it does.

[latexeses]

I swear it works

I'll bet it does!