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  • Removing gas tank rust? Read this.....

    Hey, I'm going to electrolysis my tank this weekend to remove the rust, but couldn't find Arm & Hammer Washing Soda anywhere. Not a big demand item, I guess. BUT, go to the hardware store, pool supply, or WalMart and look for pH Plus in the pool section. It's the same stuff, sodium carbonate. I got a five pound bottle for six bucks.
    1978 XS 1100 E Full Dress
    Patiently waiting to be restored back to life!

  • #2
    Any update on how the electrolysis went for rust removal in the gas tank?
    '81 XS11H Venturer - holed up in storage while life happened since 07/08/04
    '81 Kawasaki KE175 enduro - 63 mph of smokey fun, now with collector plates!

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    • #3
      Electrolosis experience

      I have done two tanks using this method and two tanks using the Pour15 process and materials.

      The A&H washing soda can be found on the internet but not at your local store. Based on my research this is the best material to use because of the ion properties needed for electrolisis to work efficently.

      It works, but if you let it go to long the rust can convert to a black type of iron oxide that can be hard to remove. I used washers & nuts to "sand" out the inside. You need to clean the positive lead as it will buildup considerable crap as a result of the process. It does work, I will not use it as long as my first efforts. One old crappy tank ended up with more pin holes in it after electrolosis than before, but it was a rust bucket.

      The pour15 process and products work really well and I will stick with this method on the next tank(2).
      1979 XS1100 SF stock
      1979 XS1100 F Bagger w/G Motor
      1978 XS1100 2H9 (Next startup)
      1979 XS 750 SF

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      • #4
        Look for the A&H washing soda at the nearest cheap foods store like a Foods For Less or something like that. About $2.50 for a 2lb. box.

        Use Phosphoric acid to coat the tank after the electrolisis. Converts any remaining rust to iron phosphide.

        There are a wad of posts about the process if you use the search button for cleaning a fuel tank. I found out the hard way...

        Never had any black build-up in the tank from the cleaning though. My tank wound up brite and shiney inside.
        RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

        "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

        Everything on hold...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lettuceman View Post
          You need to clean the positive lead as it will buildup considerable crap as a result of the process.
          Thanks for the update. Can you describe how you configured your positive electrode? Did you fill the tank with electrolyte solution then suspend the electrode?

          Thanks again,
          Kevin
          '81 XS11H Venturer - holed up in storage while life happened since 07/08/04
          '81 Kawasaki KE175 enduro - 63 mph of smokey fun, now with collector plates!

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          • #6
            I bought the tank liner kit at my local yamaha dealer. It wasn't cheep ($40 i think, i forget. my tank was full of rust and getting thru the screens. I had inline filters catching. I treated it and lined it. all worked great. I poured the solvent into a 5 gal jug cause I couldn't bring myself to dump it. I may need to de-rust something someday. the liner is like paint. the inside of the tank is an almond color now and it worked great. chean filters. the next tome I remove the tank, I'm gonna chuck the inline filters

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            • #7
              Wouldn't CLR (Calcium Lime Rust) work the same if not better and a lot easier than all of this? That's how I'm tackling it and it's worked wonders for all my tripple tree and front brake parts. Hell, it even worked on my caliper pistons... 10 year rusted calipers. I figured if I CLR the tank, I mean really let it soak in a non-diluted state for a good day or so, it'd do the trick and then go for the Kreem treatment afterwards I'd be set.
              Josh Yoquelet -- I'm having dreams of my XS
              '79 XS11SF "stock"- 4/1 Kerker, T.C.'s fuse block
              '79 XS11SF "bobber"- Rotted in a pine tree for 10 years
              '81 Air forks w/23,000 miles
              New steering head races and bearings
              '78/'79 standard wire harness
              Drag bars, w/Mikes controls
              T.C.'s fuse block
              PNM Coils
              7mm Dyna Wires
              NGK Resistor Caps
              Custom 1" clutch and 9/16" MC

              http://xs11bobber.tripod.com

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              • #8
                there have been several write ups in bike mags over the last few months about it. this was it won't rust again.
                " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

                79 xs11 standard
                xs pods, Kerker 4-1, zrx1200r carbs mikesxs coils 35k voltz of power!!!
                8mm msd wires
                tkat fork brace...
                Fox shocks...
                mikes650 front fender
                led's gallore...
                renthal bars
                gold valve emulators
                vmax tensioner
                Rifle fairing

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