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  • So who wants to know about the green Mikes Coils?

    I just installed a pair of Mikes XS Performance Coils (a.k.a. 'the green ones'). They're fatter than either the $34 Mikes coils or the stock units, so mounting got a little tricky. I first tried some angle brackets, but they're just too big to fit. If you try mounting them using their mounting holes, the plug wire towers end up against the frame. I finally cross drilled the farthest mounting holes, and that made them fit perfect. Do you think that will void the warranty ? When they're cross-drilled there will be some small pieces of metal that will fall out of the end as the mounting bars are a laminate of thin strips of metal. You wind up with 'U' shaped brackets on each end. Doesn't seem to be a problem - they mount securely and it actually made for a very tidy installation on my 79F.

    The coils have screw-in terminals for the 12v leads, and they aren't marked in any way as to positive and negative. With the towers pointing down I attached the red lead to the bottom terminal, and the green lead to the top just because of the wire length on the supplied leads. For some reason the leads they supply have one bullet connector (red) and one spade connector (green) - must be a 650 thing. I plugged the bullet connectors directly into the 2/1 red/wht connector, and the spade connector into my patch wires from the old coils. Either I got lucky and wired them correctly, or it doesn't make any difference - they work. I've got an e-mail in to Mikes to find out if it matters, but haven't received a reply yet.

    Where the high tension wires connect to the towers it's the same kind of connection you usually see on cages - a little metal contact that has to be crimped to the end of the wire and then snapped into the tower. There were absolutely NO instructions included, so I had to wing it. I stripped about a half inch of insulation off the wires and folded it back along the insulation. Then I put the connector on and crimped it making sure the 'tooth' stuck into the insulation so it wouldn't pull off the end of the wire.

    I actually like this method of attachment better than the $34 coils. It will facilitate changing the wires without the need to remove the coils like you have to do on the $34's. 'Course the proof of the pudding is in the eating - and Betsy's eating them up.

    The quality on these things appears to be excellent. $69 a pop may seem a bit steep, but I'm glad I spent the money. The $34 coils were great too - until they failed (after about 18 mos/10K+ miles), and I've heard from another member who also had them fail. Hopefully these will last a LOT longer.
    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

  • #2
    The Cure!!!??

    So did this cure the issue you had?? Finally ready to ride instead of wrenching?
    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


    Previously owned
    93 GSX600F
    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
    81 XS1100 Special
    81 CB750 C
    80 CB750 C
    78 XS750

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    • #3
      Don - It cured it and-a-half . I'm headed out right now.
      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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      • #4
        Sounds like a winner. Any pics of the finished install??
        Four wheels move your body, two wheels move your soul.

        ATGATT, It could save your life!

        1980 XS 1100SG
        Dyna 3 Ohm Hi Output Coils
        Pod Filters
        DynoJet Kit
        T.C.'s Fuse Block
        Slip Streamer Turbo Windshield
        Custom Tank and Side Cover Decals
        V-Max Auto CCT

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        • #5
          I haven't yet, but I might take the tank off this weekend and take some pics. All-in-all I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. They're working really good.
          I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

          '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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          • #6
            I got a reply from Mikes XS. Here's what was said -

            Question - I just received order # 63991 (XS Performance Coils - part #17-6810). How can I tell which terminal is positive and which is negative? There don't appear to be any markings. Does it even matter? Also on the crimp-on connectors for the high tension wires - instructions on how to properly crimp them would be helpful.

            Mikes Answer - No polarity on Dual output coils. Bare the high tension lead and pass the metal core thru the small hole in the coil end terminal ( solder if you want but just touching will do as this coil puts out 75 KV !
            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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            • #7
              Can you tell if there is any performance improvement over good working stock coils???Terry
              1980 special (Phyllis)
              1196 10.5 to 1 kit,megacycle cams,shaved head,dynojet carb kit,ported intake and exhaust,mac 4 into 1 exhaust,drilled rotors,ss brake lines,pods,mikes xs green coils,iridium plugs,led lights,throttle lock,progressive shocks,oil cooler,ajustable cam gears,HD valve springs,Vmax tensioner mod

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              • #8
                Over stock coils? I can tell the difference between these and the other Mikes coils - before they started acting-up. The old coils were a big improvement over stock. With the green coils the motor is just snapier, and has better power through the entire rpm range. I'm likin' 'em.
                I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                • #9
                  Way cool I'm going to order a set ASAP. Terry
                  1980 special (Phyllis)
                  1196 10.5 to 1 kit,megacycle cams,shaved head,dynojet carb kit,ported intake and exhaust,mac 4 into 1 exhaust,drilled rotors,ss brake lines,pods,mikes xs green coils,iridium plugs,led lights,throttle lock,progressive shocks,oil cooler,ajustable cam gears,HD valve springs,Vmax tensioner mod

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                  • #10
                    Terry - When you get them you'll want to open up your plug gap a bit. I've got mine at .035" right now, and depending on how the plugs look I may open them up a little wider still. I've got iridium plugs installed, and they say not to try to adjust the gap as the posts are brittle and can easily break. This being the case, if I pull the plugs and the new coils aren't burning the electrodes off I'll leave them alone. If they are I'll just have to be careful while adjusting.

                    I'm going out in the man cave shortly to remove the tank and take some pics of the install. I'll post them in a bit.
                    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                    • #11
                      Pics are ready -

                      These images show pretty clearly the modification I made to the coil mounting bars. I also added some small washers between the bikes mounting bracket and the coil. They spread the torque across the mounting bar, and more importantly provide a little more space between the coils for cooling. You can see how fat these coils are and how tight the space is. DISCLAIMER - I'm not telling anyone to drill holes in their new coils - it'll void the warranty for sure. That being said, if I had to mount another set I'd do it the same way. Jeeze! I'm starting to sound like my ex-wife . And without further adieu...











                      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                      • #12
                        Thanks I just ordered a set of coils,caps and wires.I use same plugs as you I'll reset the gap when I install the coils.Terry
                        1980 special (Phyllis)
                        1196 10.5 to 1 kit,megacycle cams,shaved head,dynojet carb kit,ported intake and exhaust,mac 4 into 1 exhaust,drilled rotors,ss brake lines,pods,mikes xs green coils,iridium plugs,led lights,throttle lock,progressive shocks,oil cooler,ajustable cam gears,HD valve springs,Vmax tensioner mod

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                        • #13
                          Terry - I predict that, in about a week, you're going to be a happy guy. The iridiums should be properly gapped right out of the box (BPR6EIX @ .035") unless you changed them. I'm running them with non-resistor NGK caps. My wires are Pro Series by Federal part #23402 purchased at a local autoparts store. They're just a set of inexpensive universal 7mm copper core wires for a 4 cyclinder cage (I double checked them with an ohm meter to confirm that they are not resistor wires). They cost a little less than $12 for the set (including tax), and came with enough wire to do a bike three, maybe four times. I should have probably mentioned that before .
                          I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                          '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                          • #14
                            Looks good. When the Mikes Xs Coils (black ones) die, I will get a set of those.
                            Four wheels move your body, two wheels move your soul.

                            ATGATT, It could save your life!

                            1980 XS 1100SG
                            Dyna 3 Ohm Hi Output Coils
                            Pod Filters
                            DynoJet Kit
                            T.C.'s Fuse Block
                            Slip Streamer Turbo Windshield
                            Custom Tank and Side Cover Decals
                            V-Max Auto CCT

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for all the help DB.But you lost me on your photo post,with the exwife mounting thing.I got a flashback and had to take some Tums.Terry
                              Last edited by tw1980; 06-14-2009, 09:21 PM. Reason: sp
                              1980 special (Phyllis)
                              1196 10.5 to 1 kit,megacycle cams,shaved head,dynojet carb kit,ported intake and exhaust,mac 4 into 1 exhaust,drilled rotors,ss brake lines,pods,mikes xs green coils,iridium plugs,led lights,throttle lock,progressive shocks,oil cooler,ajustable cam gears,HD valve springs,Vmax tensioner mod

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