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  • #16
    Originally posted by srwalters View Post
    I let my bike warm up and sure enough after spraying water on the pikes, 1 and 3 let the water stay and just run down 2 and 4 evaporated instantly.
    question now is, what does this mean. I thought it would be on one side only? Thanks
    If you took the plug caps off, didja put them back right?
    That you got a good shock from the wires but #1 & #3 don't fire could mean the wires on
    those two cylinders are swapped over and those good fat sparks are happening 180º out.
    Try swapping the #1 & the #3 plug wires.
    Fred Hill, S'toon
    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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    • #17
      Needle valve issue

      I took off the carb bowls and the needle valve was stuck on 1 and 3. DUH!!!
      Anyway I started up the bike and it ran and sounded great except for all the smoke from the cylenders that have been running withour fuel.
      But after 30 sec's of running, I noticed fuel pouring out of carb 1. So it looks like I need to adjust the tab on the fload one or two more times and if all goes well, my next poste will be the words of excitement and joy.

      Thants to all that have been helping with this issue
      Swalters
      1980 XS11SG/sf

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      • #18
        SW - Sometimes a sharp rap with the back of a screwdriver or a small rubber mallet will unstick stuck floats. I'd try that first. Does sound like they could use a cleaning, though.
        I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

        '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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        • #19
          Running on all 4

          Well I read back through the Manual and decided to tear down the carbs again. I went step by step and used 137.5 jets on 1 and 4 and ordered and put 142.5 on 2and 3. I re-adjusted the the floats and ran a test to make sure no carbs were leaking.
          I fired it up and it sounded much differend, you could it was running on all 4.
          I went around the yard and it ran great. I went down the road and with a little hesatation on the start off, but then shot off like a rocket. I will test it and fine tune it more tomorrow after I run around on the back roads to learn to ride again. From 45 Hp to 95Hp is like a new bike.
          1980 XS11SG/sf

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          • #20
            Can we assume from the proposed jetting that the 'sf' part of xs11sg/sf is a set of 78/79 carbs? The 80/81's came with different jets on 1 & 4 and 2 & 3. The 78/79's were all jetted the same. Even on the 80/81's a lot of members have jetted them the same all the way across. I think the reason they were jetted differently on the 80/81's had something to do with stricter emission controls, so I'm not sure it buys you much unless you're trying to be green. Making them run a little richer in the middle might make those cylinders run a little cooler, but I'm not sure you'd notice it. Just some stuff to think about.
            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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            • #21
              It always seemed like it was running to lean. I had 137.5 all the way across and at 70mph it would cut out, but I am guessing that it because the cabs wern't set correctly. I read it in the back of the manual and thought I might just do that, I had tried everything elso to get it to run correctly. It looks like some careful eyeing of the floats and taking my time to do it correctly payed off. The motor and Carbs are 79's and the rest of the bike ia 80sg. I figure this out after getting several parts that didn't fit. I will have the bike one year in July and this is the first time I will get to ride it with it running correctly. More results to follow tomorrow. Thanks to all that helped.
              1980 XS11SG/sf

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              • #22
                The bike runs pretty good but still needs some fine tuning of the butterflies. Man it will get up and go. At 70 mph you crank on the throttle GO!!!
                1980 XS11SG/sf

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                • #23
                  got to love muscle bikes...cant wait to get my bike tuned right
                  _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

                  1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
                  1980 gs1000g "stock"
                  1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
                  2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

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                  • #24
                    SR - What kind of mods do you have - specifically what kind of intake and exhaust are you running? When you say you've still got some fine tuning of the butterflies I assume you mean it needs synched. There are two tools I find indispensable when working on carbs - a colortune plug and a synch gauge. The colortune plug will tell you pretty quick if you've got your carbs jetted correctly, and makes for quick, easy, accurate adjustment to your mixtures. Anytime you make adjustments to your carbs it's going to affect the synch, so a good synch device is one of those must have items if you want it to run right. If you don't have these two tools, heres something you might consider. Also, when it comes to carb tuning here's some very useful info.
                    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                    • #25
                      Thanks I had been cooling for the color tuner. I have a pretty nice Carb sync tool that I borrowed from my brother, so I am close, but the color tuner will make it much easier. I have 4 into 1 exhaust and individual pods on the carbs. I believe I am running to rich because I hear popping through carbs (Back fire)
                      I had made the mistake of trying to running it around the house in the grass, The rear wanted to out the front end and I dumped it 10 feet into the yard. No damage unless you count the grass.
                      I will get the color tuner and should be right on. Thanks
                      1980 XS11SG/sf

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                      • #26
                        Popping thru carbs usually means too lean. Check your plug color.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                        • #27
                          had similar problem once. you might check your fuel line for a kink or bend and have an easy fix.
                          1980 xs1100SG "Silent Killer"
                          1948 HD FL "Thin Mint"
                          1978 FLH 80 "Grumpy"
                          1960 HD FLH Duo "Blue" (w/family in Sacramento)
                          1986 Honda CMX 450 (51hp rat sleeper) SOLD

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                          • #28
                            SR - with a 4/1, pods, and 78/79 carbs you have basically the same setup I do. Your valves are a little bigger, but my cams have more lift and duration, so again it's about the same. I'm jetted with 145 mains and 45 pilots and that works pretty good. I could probably stand to go a size fatter on the mains, but the 145's look good through the colortune. The first thing I would do if I were you is jet them the same on all 4. If your jetting isn't right you'll wind up chasing your tail trying to tune it. Wouldn't worry about the popping - most of them seem to do that. Fatten up your jets and it will reduce it.
                            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                            • #29
                              100% better

                              Well I took dbeardslee's advice and put 145 mains 45 pilots jets. I went to start the bike and no popping, no rought take off, it is like a new bike. I was shocked and excited at the same time. I ran and got my gear ang took off. First I went around the neighborhood then went down to the next town and after two hours came back to the house still amazed at how well the bike runs. I want to thank all that helped.
                              1980 XS11SG/sf

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                              • #30
                                Way ta go!!!

                                Congrats, SRWalters! That's cool! Always brings a smile to hear another success story!!!
                                Now.... be careful and ride safe on your "new" bike!!!! lol
                                Regards,
                                Bob
                                '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                                '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                                2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                                In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                                "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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