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  • BigDick
    XSive Maximus
    • Apr 2007
    • 521
    • McConnell AFB, KS

    #1

    turn signal flasher

    it doesn't flash. lol long story, check the member's lounge for it. anyway I was working on my girl, got interrupted, came back at nearly dark and checked the new turn signals I installed a little while back, they'll flash once or twice and then come on steady and stay on. if I tap or wiggle the flasher it kicks in and flashes. Is my flasher dead? Dirty connections? or just not enough juice in the battery? (the motor was not running)
    1980 XS11SG
    Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
    Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
    ratted out, mean, and nasty
  • CatatonicBug
    Master of XSology
    • Oct 2008
    • 6117
    • Clinton, UT

    #2
    Will it flash if the motor is running? I know there is something about the voltage level that will not allow the electrical system to function properly if the voltage gets just a little low.
    1980 XS850SG - Sold
    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
    -H. Ford

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    • STEPPENWOLF
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jan 2007
      • 4188
      • CINCINNATI OH

      #3
      In my case after reading all the fixes it turned out to be just a little dirt/corrosion on the fuse connection and I mean I didn't see a thing..but I feel better now that I cleaned about all the conections...
      '80 XS1100 SG
      Don't let the good times pass you by..grab all you can
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Z4cjUlIo4

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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8636
        • South Flori-DUH

        #4
        If battery voltage is good and connections are all solid, the flasher unit can be taken apart and cleaned. There are contact points inside that can be sanded. This will usually solve the problem.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

        โ˜ฎ

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        • BigDick
          XSive Maximus
          • Apr 2007
          • 521
          • McConnell AFB, KS

          #5
          thanks guys, I'll try all of this tomorrow afternoon. I got interrupted about 6 and got back home about 15 minutes before dark, could hardly see what i was doing.
          1980 XS11SG
          Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
          Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
          ratted out, mean, and nasty

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          • fredintoon
            Master of XSology
            • Mar 2004
            • 6795
            • Saskatoon SK

            #6
            Originally posted by BigDick
            - - - checked the new turn signals I installed a little while back, they'll flash once or twice and then come on steady and stay on. if I tap or wiggle the flasher it kicks in and flashes. - - -
            Hi BigDick,
            did you check the wattage of the bulbs in your new turn signals? The stock flasher needs all of the designed 2 x 27 = 54 Watts load or it don't work and the flashers just shine steady.
            Fred Hill, S'toon
            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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            • XS Jeff
              New
              • Jun 2008
              • 7
              • Vancouver Island, BC

              #7
              Electronic Flasher

              Unless you really love your auto-cancel feature, I recommend getting an electronic flasher (a two prong one from any auto parts store). They are about 10bucks including tax, and will flash lights regardless of wattage and whether or not you are at idle for 2 minutes or downshifting with 6k on the tach.
              1980 XS 11 special
              "the Yellow Zonker"

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              • Ivan
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Jul 2008
                • 2524
                • Hutchinson KS

                #8
                Huh?

                You mean you guys don't have to push the switch back and forth to make it flash? When did they put flashers on these bikes?

                Next you're going to tell me they have five speed transmissions too.
                Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                • corey
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 208
                  • Dexter, MO

                  #9
                  I second XS Jeff. I bought one of those units from Auto Zone. Plug and play. I love how my flashers ALWAYS work now... not to mention they always work at the same tempo now.
                  Corey J. Bennett
                  '79 XS1100SF

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                  • BigDick
                    XSive Maximus
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 521
                    • McConnell AFB, KS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CatatonicBug
                    Will it flash if the motor is running? I know there is something about the voltage level that will not allow the electrical system to function properly if the voltage gets just a little low.
                    Hand this man a cigar! I finally got everything buttoned up, repainted my battery box, charged the battery, drained and refilled the gas tank, new fuel lines and inline filters, halfa$$ed carb cleaning, had the cracked exhaust welded, and my girl fired right up and purred like a kitten. She had a little bit of a stumble from idle when you crack the throttle, and a very little bit of white smoke from the right bank bank until it warmed up.
                    1980 XS11SG
                    Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
                    Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
                    ratted out, mean, and nasty

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                    • CatatonicBug
                      Master of XSology
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 6117
                      • Clinton, UT

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigDick
                      Hand this man a cigar! I finally got everything buttoned up, repainted my battery box, charged the battery, drained and refilled the gas tank, new fuel lines and inline filters, halfa$$ed carb cleaning, had the cracked exhaust welded, and my girl fired right up and purred like a kitten. She had a little bit of a stumble from idle when you crack the throttle, and a very little bit of white smoke from the right bank bank until it warmed up.
                      So, I take it the turn signals flashed fine once it was running?? You really gotta stop giving us half the story
                      1980 XS850SG - Sold
                      1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                      Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                      Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                      Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                      -H. Ford

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                      • BigDick
                        XSive Maximus
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 521
                        • McConnell AFB, KS

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CatatonicBug
                        So, I take it the turn signals flashed fine once it was running?? You really gotta stop giving us half the story
                        Yep, that's why you get the cigar. I'm somewhat dyslexic, especially on the computer and when telling stories, I forget I haven't told the middle part that's usually fairly relevant.

                        So now should I worry about the little bit of white smoke when I start her up?
                        1980 XS11SG
                        Dunlop elite 3's, progressive fork springs, tkat brace
                        Stock motor, airbox, carbs, exhaust
                        ratted out, mean, and nasty

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                        • Ivan
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2524
                          • Hutchinson KS

                          #13
                          usually that is an indication of valve stem seals being worn out.

                          That little bit of smoke comes from oil seeping down the valve guide when the engine sits. It will burn away after a few seconds of running.

                          The valve guides have clearances in the few thousandths, so oil won't go flooding into the engine, even if there is no seal installed.

                          I would say there isn't much to worry about. On an otherwise good running engine, valve seals will eventually make a white ashy looking deposit on the electrode of the spark plug, and it is easily scraped off. I have never seen one fouled by that either.
                          Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                          • corey
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 208
                            • Dexter, MO

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ivan
                            usually that is an indication of valve stem seals being worn out.

                            That little bit of smoke comes from oil seeping down the valve guide when the engine sits. It will burn away after a few seconds of running.

                            The valve guides have clearances in the few thousandths, so oil won't go flooding into the engine, even if there is no seal installed.

                            I would say there isn't much to worry about. On an otherwise good running engine, valve seals will eventually make a white ashy looking deposit on the electrode of the spark plug, and it is easily scraped off. I have never seen one fouled by that either.
                            Mine does it too... the white smoke that is. Its done it since I bought it five years ago. Hasn't really gotten worse. No other adverse symptoms. LET HER ROLL!
                            Corey J. Bennett
                            '79 XS1100SF

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