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  • Giggity
    Truly XSive
    • Mar 2009
    • 113
    • Longmont, CO

    #1

    Fork disassembly problem

    I need to replace my fork seals and cannot get the top and bottom of the forks separated. I tried using an air ratchet on the hex screw with the spring compressed in the top tube. The cartridge just spins.
    I want to make the tool as found in the Tech Tips but cannot find a 19 mm nut after checking five hardware stores.
    Any suggestions besides buying a $20 hex bit socket from Sears?
    1979 XS1100 Standard
    Putting it together........
  • tarzan
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Apr 2008
    • 1700
    • Chandler,Az.

    #2
    Giggity,
    I used a 3\4" on each end of a piece of allthread.I welded the nuts on but you could just jamm two nuts together on each end.
    Another thing,you might try a impact gun instead if you have one.It tends to shock the bolt loose easier.
    Last edited by tarzan; 04-02-2009, 06:35 PM.
    80 SG XS1100
    14 Victory Cross Country

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    • TopCatGr58
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 12650
      • Portsmouth, Va.

      #3
      Hey Giggity,

      Other's have also taken a piece of wood, like an old broom stick to jam down there enough to hold it still while you get the bottom screw loose! Then once you get it out, you can test some nuts and how they fit into it for that special tool!
      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
      How nature points out the folly of men!

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      • Pat Kelly
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Jul 2002
        • 3046
        • Golden Valley, AZ

        #4
        I used a broomstick.....
        Pat Kelly
        <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

        1978 XS1100E (The Force)
        1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
        2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
        1999 Suburban (The Ship)
        1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
        1968 F100 (Valentine)

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        • Giggity
          Truly XSive
          • Mar 2009
          • 113
          • Longmont, CO

          #5
          Thanks for the suggestions. I can't remember the last time I had a broom with a wood handle!
          1979 XS1100 Standard
          Putting it together........

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          • bikerphil
            Master of XSology
            • Jan 2008
            • 8637
            • South Flori-DUH

            #6
            Homemade tool in damping rod... this works on the Standard, not the Special. 19MM (3/4").

            Last edited by bikerphil; 04-02-2009, 09:44 PM.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • fredintoon
              Master of XSology
              • Mar 2004
              • 6795
              • Saskatoon SK

              #7
              Originally posted by Giggity
              - - - cannot find a 19 mm nut after checking five hardware stores. Any suggestions besides buying a $20 hex bit socket from Sears?
              Hi Giggity,
              they got 1/2'' nuts everywhere and they are 3/4"a/f . (3/4" = 19.05mm)
              Betcha you don't want to wait for Sears 50% off tool sale either, eh?
              Fred Hill, S'toon
              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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              • HobbyMan
                MeatHead Idiot "GURU"
                • Jul 2006
                • 1801
                • Colleyville, TX

                #8
                If you don't want to use allthread...
                Just take a long extension with a 3/4 in socket and nut. Put some wadded paper towels in the base of the socket to help the nut stick out about half way. Just hold the fork vertical when you insert the extension from open end on the bottom.(keeps the nut from falling out) That has worked well enough for me. Next time that I change the fork oil in my bikes, I will probably put 3 3/4" nuts together with all-thread so I don't have to use paper towels.
                United States Merchant Marine Academy, Kings Point, NY
                If I can do it at 18 yrs old, anyone can
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                • Giggity
                  Truly XSive
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 113
                  • Longmont, CO

                  #9
                  Thanks again guys. I used bikerphil's method but instead of 2 nuts just JB welded one nut onto the bolt (3/4"). Waiting for it to cure as I type.
                  Gotta get those new seals on tonight. I think there was about 50 cc of fork oil in each leg when I drained them.
                  1979 XS1100 Standard
                  Putting it together........

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                  • DGXSER
                    Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12001
                    • Cincinnati, Ohio

                    #10
                    Make sure you pump the forks to get the oil out. Although on one of mine that did not get any more out.
                    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                    Previously owned
                    93 GSX600F
                    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                    81 XS1100 Special
                    81 CB750 C
                    80 CB750 C
                    78 XS750

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                    • Giggity
                      Truly XSive
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 113
                      • Longmont, CO

                      #11
                      Got them apart. Now I cannot get the seal out. The shop manual makes it look as easy as 'gently' prying it out with a flat screwdriver. No way - that thing is stuck in there.

                      Should I try heating it?
                      1979 XS1100 Standard
                      Putting it together........

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                      • TopCatGr58
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 12650
                        • Portsmouth, Va.

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DGXSER
                        Make sure you pump the forks to get the oil out. Although on one of mine that did not get any more out.
                        Yes, that is good info....IF a person isn't totally disassembling their forks, but just changing the oil, because just unscrewing the drain screw will only bleed so much out, but pumping the forks up and down will provide the pressure to extract the rest of the old oil for a basic oil change. But with the forks apart, just turning them upside down will allow all the fluid/oil to drain out.

                        One might want to put a few ounces of carb cleaner down in the fork after all the parts are out to help break down and remove an accumulated gunk!
                        T.C.
                        T. C. Gresham
                        81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                        79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                        History shows again and again,
                        How nature points out the folly of men!

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                        • bikerphil
                          Master of XSology
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 8637
                          • South Flori-DUH

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Giggity
                          Got them apart. Now I cannot get the seal out.
                          Get one of these from Sears or an auto parts store. It's called a seal puller. It'll pop that sucker right out. Put a thin piece of wood under the fulcrum point to avoid dinging up the top of the fork.

                          2H7 (79) owned since '89
                          3H3 owned since '06

                          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                          โ˜ฎ

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                          • Skin Krawler
                            XSive
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 23
                            • Lemoore, CA

                            #14
                            Or if your replacing the seals, just cut the old ones out with a set of dikes. they'll come out eventually, just gotta talk nice to them.
                            1980 XS11
                            _=-Xcellerator-=_
                            -47,000 miles
                            -rear dropped 1 1/2" w/HD Sporster Shox
                            -HD 12" apes & controls
                            -V*Star seat & bags


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                            • Giggity
                              Truly XSive
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 113
                              • Longmont, CO

                              #15
                              Finally got them out with the seal puller and heat.
                              1979 XS1100 Standard
                              Putting it together........

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