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    I have an '82 XJ1100J which has the rear and one front caliper combined on the right foot pedal with the other front caliper on the right hand lever...Not sure if any of the other Maxims are this way, but this model is.
    I'm wondering if anyone has ever split them up like normal brakes (rears on the foot and both fronts on the hand lever). What kinds of issues did you run into? Did you have to swap out to a different front master cylinder to have enough pressure to have good front brakes?
    Any thoughts?
    Mike

  • #2
    If you keep the stock rear brake line, you'll have to disconnect the line that goes to the front and cap that off. I used a bolt with the proper threads and some teflon tape to seal it. But by using the stock line, you'll have to run it through the proportion valve still and you won't get much back brake at all. That valve will still be trying to send it to the front. That valve has a small metal line going into the master cylinder with a flared fitting. You'll need to get an aftermarket (Preferably stainless) line with one end normal that a banjo bolt goes through for the back calipers and an end for the M/C that has the small flared end. They are both 10mm.

    On the front, there has been questions about the capacity of the XJ's M/C to run dual calipers. Most seem to think it would be fine as long as you ran stainless lines and got rid of the rubber ones. I'm still running on the single front right one, but like you, would eventually like to have dual fronts.

    Tod
    Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

    You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

    Current bikes:
    '06 Suzuki DR650
    *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
    '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
    '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
    '81 XS1100 Special
    '81 YZ250
    '80 XS850 Special
    '80 XR100
    *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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    • #3
      ???

      Wondering why you want to do this? I love this set-up.
      Just ME and my 82 XJ 1100. Mac 4>1-2 1/2" open baffle shotgun, no octy, K&N pod filters, LED tail/brake light & directionals, 750 FD mod, Ear Cannon air horn, modified bars and dash. "Motorcyclists are all bound together by a brotherhood tie through their love of the sport, and what difference does it make what machine he rides as long as he belongs to the clan." Walter Davidson, Dec. 1920 edition of Harley-Davidson Enthusiast Magazine http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/justme1100/

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      • #4
        Originally posted by justme1100 View Post
        Wondering why you want to do this? I love this set-up.
        I was thinking the same thing.
        Paul
        1983 XJ1100 Maxim
        1979 XS1100 Standard
        1980 XS1100 Special

        I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

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        • #5
          I have the same braking system on my MNS. As it was explained to me, the difference is like driving a cage with an automatic transmission. It works great most of the time, is especially useful for those who don't need/desire the extra control, and almost never has issues. But for those who want that extra edge of control over which wheel gets brakes, splitting it is the only way to do that.

          I personally love the linked brakes, but that's just me.
          1980 XS850SG - Sold
          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
          Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

          Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
          -H. Ford

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          • #6
            I find that I have more than enough control and i have seen riders over brake with duals up front. I find that in turning corners it handles like no other bike I have ever rode and I have been riding for years. If I need to stop fast I still have control over which tire gets how much brake as one caliper is operated by the hand and that is plenty. If I ever build another bike from scratch I would use this system to keep my bars clean and old school. But this is just my opinion and like a##holes everybody has one.
            Just ME and my 82 XJ 1100. Mac 4>1-2 1/2" open baffle shotgun, no octy, K&N pod filters, LED tail/brake light & directionals, 750 FD mod, Ear Cannon air horn, modified bars and dash. "Motorcyclists are all bound together by a brotherhood tie through their love of the sport, and what difference does it make what machine he rides as long as he belongs to the clan." Walter Davidson, Dec. 1920 edition of Harley-Davidson Enthusiast Magazine http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/justme1100/

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            • #7
              Read here and you'll understand why some people do.

              http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21166

              If you like how it works, that's fine, but there are reasons to disconnect it. How many serious performance bikes do you think have a linked system? There's a reason for that. A normal cruising style of riding will probably benefit from a linked system most of the time, but there are situations that come up where I think it could be detrimental. This is taking into account though that you aren't the type to panic and lock up tires. If this is the case, a proportion valve would be safer for you. The difference in the linked when I got the bike to the un-linked I have now... it is a much more controllable bike for MY personal riding style.

              Like I said.. if you like it and it works well for you.. by all means keep it.

              Tod
              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

              Current bikes:
              '06 Suzuki DR650
              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
              '81 XS1100 Special
              '81 YZ250
              '80 XS850 Special
              '80 XR100
              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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