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  • Seeking Truth on Emulsion Tube Positions

    Thanks to XS11.com for the Birthday greetings. I turned 66 today!
    I have the carbs down for cleaning on a 79 SF. I realize the two inside cylinders utilize a richer mixture to maintain slightly cooler operating temp. My problem is the nozzle or emulsion tube placement. One set of nozzles has 16 small holes and the other has only 10. I've searched the formus and find conflicting answers. So once again, the question is which emulsion tube would create the richer mix, the one with 16 side holes or the one with 10 side holes? Also, what is the theory on how these holes affect the mixture? Do the holes prevent a lesser amount of fuel to be pulled into the air flow, or do they cause a greater amount of fuel to enter the air flow?
    Curious in Monterey, TN
    Larry
    Larry/Crossville, TN
    80 XS11 Midnight (el gallo negro)
    80 XS850S
    79 XS750S
    79 XS650
    77 RD400
    80 SR500
    et al

  • #2
    happy 66th!
    the holes in the emulsion tubes allow for air,
    the more holes the leaner the mixture, put the
    richer tubes in the center carbs.
    pete


    new owner of
    08 gen2 hayabusa


    former owner
    1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
    zrx carbs
    18mm float height
    145 main jets
    38 pilots
    slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
    fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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    • #3
      Larry,

      Like petejw said put the tubes with 16 holes in 1 and 4, these tubes should have a 266 marked on them. The other ones, should be marked 301, go in numbers 2 and 3.
      Ernie
      79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
      (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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      • #4
        Thanks Pete and Ernie,
        I am curious as to how more air can enter via these holes when the tube is immersed in the float bowl filled with gasoline. What is the science?
        Larry/Monterey, TN
        Larry/Crossville, TN
        80 XS11 Midnight (el gallo negro)
        80 XS850S
        79 XS750S
        79 XS650
        77 RD400
        80 SR500
        et al

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        • #5
          It sucks gas through the middle from the end.
          There is an air bleed into the well.
          More holes = more air in the mix.

          This is the case for both the main and idle tube.

          Next time they are apart, check it with your carb spray.
          XS1100SF
          XS1100F

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          • #6
            Here's the TECH!

            Hey Larry,

            Here's a diagram that shows the flow of air/fuel thru the carbs/jets, etc.!
            T.C.
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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            • #7
              Ok. I'm convinced! Thanks for the diagram TC. Once again the info from this site is superb.
              Larry/Monterey, TN
              Larry/Crossville, TN
              80 XS11 Midnight (el gallo negro)
              80 XS850S
              79 XS750S
              79 XS650
              77 RD400
              80 SR500
              et al

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              • #8
                Well i never noticed the differences between the emulsion tubes. Good thing is, I have always kept the parts for each carb together and separate from the other carbs. But I would be interested to know if there are any other parts that are different between the carbs. I have an '82 XJ
                '65 Yamaha 80cc YG-1
                '67 Yamaha 350cc R-1
                '79 Kawasaki KZ-1000
                '82 Yamaha XJ-1100
                '86 Harley FXSTC 1340cc
                Sold the Harley and kept the XJ
                '82 XJ Guy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Vanman View Post
                  I would be interested to know if there are any other parts that are different between the carbs. I have an '82 XJ
                  Pretty sure (99%), that just the emulsion tubes and the main jets. As long as you keep 1-4 and 2-3 the same, you should be good. Or make all 4 the same. The idea of 2-3 being different than 1-4 was eventually scrapped.
                  2H7 (79) owned since '89
                  3H3 owned since '06

                  "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                  • #10
                    Thanks! I am pretty sure that my mains are all the same so probably the emulsion tubes are also. But it's winter and I'll probably take them apart to make sure, now that my curiosity has been peaked.
                    '65 Yamaha 80cc YG-1
                    '67 Yamaha 350cc R-1
                    '79 Kawasaki KZ-1000
                    '82 Yamaha XJ-1100
                    '86 Harley FXSTC 1340cc
                    Sold the Harley and kept the XJ
                    '82 XJ Guy

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